[Kde-pim] QT 5.6.0

[Kevin Funk]

On Friday, April 15, 2016 9:11:54 AM CEST laurent Montel wrote:
> Le vendredi 15 avril 2016, 08:55:37 CEST Kevin Funk a écrit :
> > On Friday, April 15, 2016 8:46:48 AM CEST laurent Montel wrote:
> > > Le vendredi 15 avril 2016, 01:48:58 CEST Sandro Knauß a écrit :
> > > > Hey,
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > > I see that the first bumps to Qt 5.6 are made in messagelib etc. These
> > > > make
> > > > the CI unhappy because there is no Qt 5.6 available.
> > > 
> > > CI needs to install it.
> > > 
> > > > Why we need Qt 5.6?
> > > 
> > > Because in some weeks we will depend against qtwebengine 5.6
> > 
> > I think depending on Qt 5.6 (which is just a few weeks(!) old) is indeed
> > not a good idea, even in master.
> > 
> > The qtwebengine support is still optional (i.e. messagelib can be compiled
> > without, right?),
> 
> It will not in some weeks as it limits me to finish support so not.
> 
> > so why force 5.6 on users just because of an optional
> > dependency? You should try to keep it optional for the time being.
> 
> Nope.
> 
> > I'm also saying this as developer who (sometimes) compiles kdepim. Not
> > even
> > Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (unreleased) ships Qt 5.6, thus I wouldn't be able to
> > kdepim against my distro Qt.
> 
> 16.04 is the last released version.

Let me just say: 

I agree with Sandro, I don't think this is a particularly clever move. This 
raises the bar for (potential) contributors quite a bit, even for me(!) who's 
usually compiling KDE master against distro Qt. Following the KF5 minimum Qt 
requirements is usually a good thing (Qt 5.4 atm).

Since I'm not involved in any kdepim development at the moment, take this with 
a grain of salt.

Regards,
Kevin

> Regards.
> 
> > Cheers,
> > Kevin
> > 
> > > > If
> > > > everyone inside KDE is happy with Qt 5.5? It would be nice if we can
> > > > talk
> > > > about those bumps before they happen. Because building new Qt is not a
> > > > easy
> > > > task.
> > > 
> > > It's in master version.
> > > So you can build or add devel package.
> > > 
> > > > And I would like to get away from buming to new versions directy if
> > > > they get released. If there is no need to bump, than leave the needed
> > > > version untouched.
> > > 
> > > It will be necessary in future.
> > > 
> > > > It is really making the time for distribution hard to ship new
> > > > versions,
> > > > if
> > > > the version dependencies are unnessary high.
> > > > Also keep in mind all newcommers need to build everything that we
> > > > depend
> > > > on, if the versions are not available on their system...
> > > 
> > > Newcommers ?:) where ? Who ?:)
> > > 
> > > > One example with Qt 5.6 - this can't lend inside debian because plasma
> > > > crashes with it hard - a fix is on its way or got released with 5.6.1.
> > > > 
> > > > This
> > > > is one example, why distributions can't ship the newest what soever
> > > > dependency - and if we need that for kdepim that means we make it
> > > > harder
> > > > for distributions to ship it.
> > > 
> > > It's master not official release so it"s not a problem for distro
> > > otherwise
> > > they will provide new qt package.
> > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > sandro
> > > > 
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Kevin Funk | kfunk at kde.org | http://kfunk.org
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