[Kde-pim] Marketing blocker collection, DEADLINE: 2013-03-10

Kevin Krammer krammer at kde.org
Wed May 8 09:08:37 BST 2013


On Tuesday, 2013-05-07, O. Sinclair wrote:

> In my experience I have never seen users bothered with tagging. Yes on
> Facebook and Google+ they do but not on their own device. I don't, my wife
> and my kids don't. My around 100 users in 4 countries don't. They use
> "most recently", I organise my files in folders.

I agree that most tagging takes place for the benefit of others, but I wanted 
to make sure we look at a broad enough definition of tagging.
Often tagging is considered to be the attaching of text labels to things, 
which is not as common as attaching rating or comments.

Most people also tag as a spontaneous thing rather than a concentrated effort, 
e.g. clicking on a "stars" rating widget in the music player if a favorite 
song comes up that they hadn't listened to in a long while.

Of course they wouldn't need to do that, they know their own preferences 
anyway, but once in a while it is nice to have the software know this as well, 
e.g. telling the music player to "play random, prefer faviorites".

"Serious" tagging as in attaching labels is in my experience mostly used by 
highly active photographers, because the target folder only represents one 
applicable category.
However, even them don't "tag files" as in through the file manager, they 
usually assign tags through shortcuts in the photo managment software when 
"browsing through the day's harvest".

So in short I agree that "nobody tags files" but a lot of tagging is going on 
that people don't think about as such.

> With IMAP and Exchange (not supported by Kmail) you have to understand that
> location matters. Where connection is expensive and erratic you want your
> mail ON YOUR DEVICE where you can deal with drafts offline. Filter rules
> are on your device and should be. To rely on server-side is to rely on
> someone else.

I think I understand what you mean.
The thing is that what you are comparing is POP3 (download mails, keep 
locally) to online IMAP (keep on server, download for reading). 

That wouldn't work for me either since I travel a lot and will often have no 
connectivity at all or slow and flaky one.
Offline or Disconnected IMAP provides a solution for that. It downloads mail 
to local storage just like POP3 would, making it accessible even without any 
connection at all, but will also keep on the server, thus allowing multiple 
devices [1] to share the same data in a consistent fashion.

With that in mind, especially in the context of unreliable or per-volume-
payment, server side filtering can improve that even further, e.g. spam being 
removed and not bothering you when you want to get the important stuff.

Cheers,
Kevin

[1] Multiple devices might be in one's own possession but could also be a 
quick check through a web mail interface on a public terminal of sorts of at a 
friend's machine, etc.
-- 
Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer
KDE user support, developer mentoring
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