[Kde-pim] Marketing blocker collection: Searching not Reliable

Lindsay Mathieson lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com
Mon Mar 11 20:29:06 GMT 2013


On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 01:36:52 AM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Lindsay Mathieson <
> > 
> > - Inaccurate. Searches are just not finding messages that match simple
> > criteria. It seems to be worse in some folders than others. I have folders
> > where a subject search on "" returns only half the messages in the
> > folders,
> > others were its only missing a few.
> 
> Could you please list examples of where the search was inaccurate? If I can
> reproduce it then I can probably fix it.

Kinda of difficult with out my environment (email account) for you to test 
against.

Message Status =Unread is almost always out. A search on "Subject contains" 
(nothing) is always out for me, sometimes by just a few msgs, sometimes up to 
2000 missing from a 4000 msg folder.

NB:It is consistent across different machines, i.e its wrong, but wrong the 
same way :)

One search I was doing might be ok after all, I'll expand in a seperate email

> 
> > - Inconsistent. Searching on root folder + subfolders returns X msgs.
> > Searching on All returns Y msgs. Y is always larger than X and seems to
> > consist of folders that weren't found in X.
> 
> Hmm. I'll try it out.


Related to above - it always seems to be the same folder missing for me 
(mythtv-users email list). I wondered if the indexer was encountering a 
malformed msg in this folder and being bolloxed after that.

> 
> > - Doesn't update. Msgs sometimes take hours to get into the index.
> > Sometimes
> > they never do. I see this often with "Msg Status = Unread".
> 
> Christian has pushed some improvements to the feeder already. And I'm
> planning on integrating the nepomukcontroller to show some kind of progress
> window or something. You'll basically be able to see how many emails
> haven't been indexed.

That would be really useful.

> 
> > - Saved Searchs update erratically, if at all.My std Saved Search is "Msg
> > Status = Unread". This is always massively out of date within a day. The
> > same
> > search run manually shows a completely different result.
> 
> This won't happen any more. They won't update at all :D

Thats a bummer, reduces their utility close to zero for me.

> 
> Sorry, it was too cpu consuming to keep it enabled. It should be disabled
> with 4.10.2. I'll try and fix this properly with 4.11. Though I'm kinda
> surprised that the results were not up to date. Could you give me an
> example query?

"Msg Status = Unread"

> 
> > Basically searching is completely broken. My guess is that its the
> > indexing.
> 
> Actually, the indexing is pretty decent right now. It might just be the
> searching part. We haven't really tested it much.

You're sure on that? for me some searches are accurate, same search different 
keyword was not which sounds a lot like a inconsistent index.

Is anyone looking at this bug?

  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315985

For anyone effected by it indexing will fail to happen at all unless they 
manually start the feeder. I know of several users on pim-users effected by 
it.


-- 
Lindsay Mathieson
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