[Kde-pim] Marketing blocker collection, DEADLINE: 2013-03-10

[Anders Lund]

Onsdag den 20. marts 2013 22:39:05 skrev Georg C. F. Greve:
> On 2013-03-20 21:37, Anders Lund wrote:
> > Data posted here are from akonadi-console.
> 
> That is actually not the question I asked.
> 
> You must have populated the calendar with data somehow.
> 
> > There appears to be problems with retrieveing one of my owncloud
> > calendars
> > since I updated owncloud to 5.0. New events are fetched, and I can add
> > events,
> > but older events are not recognized. They are displayed in the
> > owncloud web
> > interface and on my android phone though. Other owncloud calendars
> > works fine.
> > (they are in the same server, owncloud allows to have multiple
> > calendars)
> 
> Yes, but as far as I know ownCloud only provides "dumb" CalDAV/CardDAV
> storage.
> 
> A full server would provide capabilities of addressing the different
> vendor flavours of CalDAV/CardDAV in existence and map them to an actual
> canonical storage format, which CalDAV/CardDAV is not. Otherwise there
> is a good chance that a fully standards compliant implementation in the
> Akonadi server and a fully standards compliant implementation on
> ownCloud would still have problems exchanging data.
> 
> Google will allow you to find plenty of instances of multi-client
> CalDAV/CardDAV setups having compatibility issues, e.g. for Zimbra. So
> even full groupware servers (which ownCloud is not) struggle with this.
> I'm not sure this is what is actually happening, but it is entirely
> possible the problem is not actually with the Akonadi agent and that it
> correctly reports invalid data, while ownCloud and the CalDAV client
> you're using on Android happen to understand each other well enough that
> you got lucky.
> 
> Either way: Supporting dumb CalDAV/CardDAV stores is a bit outside the
> scope of Akonadi, I guess, as it would mean that it would have to have
> compatibility provisions for every single client out there, which should
> normally be handled by the server. That means this would be a feature
> request, and while a lacking feature of course results in "could be
> better" user experience from the user perspective, it is not in and of
> itself a usability issue.
> 
> Question would be: Do we know of CalDAV/CardDAV servers that work
> against this Akonadi agent?
> 
> Best regards,
> Georg

I believe supporting owncloud would be very smart. Owncloud is available to 
anyone, and can be put completely under ones own control, and allows to store 
all sorts of data for convenient access from various devices, which is also 
why I use it. 

Appearently it works well with my android phone, with 3rd-party apps to 
provide the caldav/carddav account support. Apart from that  I have two pcs 
and a device running plasma active, and all should preferably share calendars 
and addressbooks, but owncloud also provides file sharing and a number of apps 
for sharing various sorts of data - bookmarks, notes etc. having to have a 
number of specialized servers instead is the wrong way to go, imo.

Anders
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