[Kde-pim] From a users point of view ....

[Denny]

Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2012, 13:52:45 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> Dear Denny,
> 
> Am Dienstag, 21. Februar 2012 schrieb Denny:
> > I could spent the whole day fixing new appearing Errors and Crashes of
> > kde - pim.
> > Is this just broken by design or why isn't there a working email client
> > for at least 4 years?
> > I thought with KDE 4.7.x we were over it and at least basic things
> > kinda worked stable again.
> > With KDE 4.8 now - nothing is working anymore, just to name a few
> > things annoying one one on a daily basis:
> > - Filters: broken
> > - Crashes : several per day
> > - email Addresses not recognised as you type
> > - password management : broken
> > - several empty windows popping up from ktimetracke at login ....
> > 
> > Am I supposed to create a new profile each and every time I upgrade to
> > a new version and scrap all my data?
> 
> I understand your frustration.
> 
> I also find it highly frustrating when software I do use for daily work
> does not work as I expect.
> 
> While I understand your feelings I do think that the accusing tone I
> perceive in your mail does not contribute in any way to make your
> experience better.
> 
> So by any means there is nothing wrong with your feelings. Feel them,
> express them.
> 
> But please do not accuse anyone else for the pain you suffer.
> 
> Some of your options to get a different experience are in my opinion:
> 
> 1) Ask how you can help to make it happen that KDEPIM 2 holds up to your
> expectations.
I that.
> 
> 2) Use a different mail client.
While I really liked kontact and believe in the idea to share data across 
various applications, I would not like leave, like many people did in last 
month.
Besides that, unfortunately it's not that easy. Besides the hassle to get 
everything transfered and set up, and learned to use it - there is just not 
much choice:
1. Outlook : windows only
2. Apple Mail : yep, this is my backup email program when kontact doesn't 
work. btw: version upgrades no problem, slick ,easy nice to use , but mac os 
only
3. evolution : hm, maybe
4. thunderbird : if nothing else exists, but looks relly ugly under kde and 
cluttered
5. Lotus Notes :
6. Chandler : looks very interesting and promising - not develped anymore 
since 2009
....
I spent some time the past few days searching for an alternative, so, I would 
love find one.
> 
> 3) Or use a distro that means stable when saying stable such as Debian
> Stable.
> A distro that still carries KDEPIM 1 as of 4.4.5. Even the
> development branches of Debian namely Wheezy and Sid - when you feel
> adventurous - seem to be rather stable to me and still carry KDEPIM 1 for
> now. With Debian Stable you can still use KDEPIM 1 for at least one and a
> half year, in my estimation at least two years to come. Of cause there may
> be other distributions like maybe Centos that may carry old KDEPIM even
> longer.
Chancing a distro is not really an option, although they are all linux, there 
are still differences one has to get used to again.

> 
> Thanks,
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