[Kde-pim] Need to find archived message

[Anne Wilson]

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On 15/08/12 09:07, Jörg Schaible wrote:
> Hi Anne,
> 
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> 
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>> On 14/08/12 19:18, Kevin Krammer wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 2012-08-14, Anne Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 13/08/12 08:57, Kevin Krammer wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, 2012-08-13, Anne Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> Some time ago some of my messages were deleted, in one of
>>>>>>  those accidents.  I know that they are backed up on a 
>>>>>> separate partition of my IMAP server, but opening 
>>>>>> thousands of messages, one by one, in kwrite is a
>>>>>> daunting task.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ideally I'll like to make an account in KMail that 
>>>>>> displays the messages in 
>>>>>> /mnt/server-name/Data2/Maildir/mailbox-name/cur - in
>>>>>> fact the whole of the Data2 Mildir would be fine if that
>>>>>> is easier.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is that possible?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am not sure if you can access all folders in one go, the
>>>>>  maildir resource assumes a certain directory structure for
>>>>>  subfolders.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You could try pointing a maildir resource to 
>>>>> /mnt/server-name/Data2/Maildir
>>>>> 
>>>>> One thing that should work from how the path looks like is 
>>>>> to access single folders, i.e. pointing a maildir resource 
>>>>> to /mnt/server-name/Data2/Maildir/mailbox-name
>>>>> 
>>>>> For additional safety during experiementation you could 
>>>>> consider mounting the server's export as read-only.
>>>> 
>>>> Possible complication - if I open the new resource and try to
>>>>  search for a message, it tells me that it can't search
>>>> because the Nepomuk-something isn't available, and that I can
>>>> activate it in SystemSettings.  It is activated, and
>>>> searching other resources works fine, so does this mean that
>>>> the read-only part is interfering with searching?  Not a huge
>>>> deal, if that's so, because I can always backup the backup
>>>> :-) then remove the read-only bit.
>>> 
>>> I doubt that the read-only character of the underlying file 
>>> system has any effect on the indexing. Check with
>>> Akonadiconsole that the Nepomuk feeder agent is running and
>>> "online". Maybe remove and re-add the maildir resource and list
>>> the folder content again.
>>> 
>>> The feeder agent should get notified about the new mails and 
>>> start to index them.
>>> 
>> Not really sure what I'm looking for, or where to look for it, 
>> Kevin. Akonadiconsole seems to have many tabs, almost all of
>> them totally empty.  The Raw socket says "* OK Akonadi Almost
>> IMAP Server [PROTOCOL 28] ".
>> 
>> Actually, as I dig deeper, there is something very strange here. 
>> My search would not have found the message I wanted, because the 
>> mail folder in question is not listed.  When I looked at the 
>> properties I found that I was offered the top-level Maildir 
>> directory, cur, new, tmp and Inbox.Family.  I have no idea why 
>> Inbox.Family is different from any other subdirectory, but even 
>> that isn't enough.  Going back to reading mail, I realise that
>> I'm really only seeing Inbox/cur - not even Family.  There is no 
>> possibility in the resource setup for connecting to the
>> sub-folder I really need,
>> /mnt/Data3/anne/Maildir/Inbox.Archives.
> 
> Maildirs seem to be not so standard as expected. Do you have a 
> standard local Maildir resource? For me it points to 
> "~/.local/shared/local-mail/". When I look into the file system, I 
> can see that this folder has only the usual cur/new/tmp folders. 
> However, all my subfolders are located in 
> "~/.local/share/.local-mail.directory/" and their subfolders are 
> again in subfolders that follow this naming pattern, e.g. 
> "~/.local/share/.local- mail.directory/.Projects.directory/", so
> you have something like:
> 
> =========== %< ========== rootdir + Maildir | + cur | + new | + tmp
> + .Maildir.directory + Sub | + cur | + new | + tmp + .Sub.directory
> + Sub2 | + cur | + new | + tmp + .Sub2.directory + Sub3 + cur + new
> + tmp =========== %< ==========
> 
> However, I have the Maildir structure you're describing when I
> look into the file system of my Courier IMAP server (i.e. all
> folders are inthe same directory and the hierarchy is defined by
> the dots):
> 
> =========== %< ========== rootdir + Maildir + cur + new + tmp + Sub
> + cur + new + tmp + Sub.Sub2 + cur + new + tmp + Sub.Sub2.Sub3 +
> cur + new + tmp =========== %< ==========
> 
> Based on this information, it should be possible to convert the 
> existing structure with a script into one that the Akonadi Maildir 
> resource understands.
> 
Hi Jorge.  I don't have a local IMAP structure.  My IMAP server sits
~1m. away from me, and I have local mounts to my home on the server
and also to data directories.  The IMAP server is dovecot, and mail
structure on the server is as you describe.

I have no difficulty in reading my mail from there.  What I'm trying
to do, though, is to set another resource to point to a backup
directory, in order to recover some emails that were lost some time
back.  The missing mail is known to be in
/mnt/Data3/anne/Maildir/Inbox.Archives, and in Dolphin I can see the
messages, but there are many, and it's a pain to have to open each one
in kwrite :-)

What surprised me is that when I tried to modify the resource to point
to that subdirectory, the browser wouldn't let me descend through the
tree to get to it.  I wondered if "Manage local subscriptions" would
help, but again, only the top level Inbox is offered.  I can't find
the "Manage server-side subscriptions" that I know used to be
somewhere, so I didn't get chance to explore that.

Anne
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