[Kde-pim] KDE/kdepim/kmail

laurent Montel montel at kde.org
Fri May 28 08:31:22 BST 2010


On Jeudi 27 Mai 2010 23:17:36 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Thursday 27 May 2010, Thomas McGuire wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Thursday 27 May 2010 16:31:18 Laurent Montel wrote:
> > > Put offline agentinstance when we close kmail.
> > > I don't want that email is always download when I
> > > don't use kmail
> > 
> > Please revert this for now.
> > When you restart KMail, all agents are set to offline, which causes
> > strange bugs like the local folder resource not delivering items.
> > 
> > The proper solution would be to do this on the server side: If the
> > last application that uses email has closed the connection to the
> > Akonadi server, then set the agents to offline. If the first
> > application starts using the server for email, then put the agents
> > online (could be detected e.g. by checking for a CollectionFetchJob
> > with the rfc822 mimetype, or with a special command, although that
> > is not very robust).
> > Other possibilities: Use D-Bus calls to the control process, although
> > this is not crash-resistant. Other suggestions were creating a
> > dedicated KDED module.
> > 
> > I am not sure if we should do this, as Tobias opposed this when we
> > talked about it. I'm in favor though, as some people might not like
> > that the system checks the email without an email application
> > running. CC'ing the mailing list, as this might be of more general
> > interest.
> 
> I would definitely want my system to check for mail as soon as I log in,
> so that the mail has already been downloaded and properly filtered when
> I fire up KMail.
> 
> What is the problem you are trying to fix? What's the actual reason
> behind this?

The problem is that for end-user will not understand that all email is 
download when kmail is closed.
By default with kmail1/evolution/mozilla-mail when we close theses 
applications, we don't download email.

So if people as me, keep his kde environment login in my home, and try to get 
email in my office, I will not have my email.
(concret example: home I have a pop3 for kde emails, and at my office I use imap 
to look at them).
Now how we can explain to users that "sorry you keep your kde environment up 
so sorry you can have your email wait this night to read them"

It's not an acceptable solution.

This method works when we have just one computer and that's all, but when we 
want to read email in several computer (with pop3) it's not a valid solution.


Regards.
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