[Kde-pim] KDEPIM Needs More TIme

Anne Wilson annew at kde.org
Sat May 15 18:14:33 BST 2010


On Saturday 15 May 2010 13:25:30 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > Does this mean that it will be possible to have KDE SC 4.5 with
> > kdepim 4.4 and kdepim ATP parallel installed?
> 
> No. You can install one or the other. But that's not really a problem 
> because if the ATP doesn't work for you then you can "simply" install 
> 4.4 again.
> 
Yet, from what you say below, you will have lost data - surely that is a 
problem.

> > Providing there's no
> > danger of data loss this would be ideal from the users' PoV.  Those
> > that understand the deal and choose to test would be able to do so,
> > while still having the old one to fall back on if things go wrong,
> 
> This won't work. There won't be a way back once the data and the 
> configuration has been migrated and the ATP has been used (producing new 
> data). In KDE PIM (and, AFAIK, also in the rest of KDE) we never took 
> precautions allowing to go back. Consequently, we have never promised 
> that it's possible to go back to an earlier version of an application.
> 
If that is so, then it has to be made clear from the start that it is a 'now 
and forever' choice.  Otherwise you are going to have hundreds of users 
screaming that they have lost their data.

> Users who want to give the ATP a try should make a backup of their data 
> and their configuration before installing the ATP. 

Sure, but incoming data between the day of migration and the day on which you 
decide that testing is too problematic, is going to be lost, it seems.

> But users do anyway 
> backup their data regularly, right? ;-)
> 
I can't answer for others.  I do, but this conversation is making me decidedly 
uneasy.  Before this point I had an addressbook that could be read by many 
applications under many operating systems.  Now I'm backing up my akonadi 
addressbook - and it apparently is no use outside this context.  That's 
worrying.  Should we be advising people to export to vcard regularly, as an 
additional form of backup?

> > and others could stick with 4.4 until the next distro release.
> 
> Not just "could", but "SHOULD" (in the RFC sense of the word).

Anne
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