[Kde-pim] KDE/kdepim/kmail

[Sebastian Kügler]

Hi,

On Tuesday 01 June 2010 18:20:44 Dr. Robert Marmorstein wrote:
> > doesn't sound like a good solution. (And if you use POP3, and you don't
> > want KMail to delete your emails from the server -- tell it not to.) It
> 
> On my ISP, the "keep on server" option is disabled server-side.  I know
> that  sounds weird, but when a message is downloaded using POP3, it is
> automatically deleted by the server.  This is a server-side option, not
> configurable by me. I think the ISP is trying to save resources at my
> expense.
> 
> It's possible to work around this by using fetchmail to pull all your mail 
> someplace else that provides IMAP access to it.  But setting up a mail
> server,  fetchmail system, and the necessary firewall settings to access
> it is beyond most users.

For those users, disabling synching altogether would work. The use-case is slim 
enough (to *me* anyway) that that's an OK option.

> I know this sounds like a really obscure situation, but I suspect a lot of
> our  users and potential users are stuck behind outdated ISPs that enforce
> really stupid policies like this.  Perhaps it would be useful to take a
> poll and see how many people still have/use POP3 accounts.

The problem will of course only occur if you leave another machine on, online and 
logged in.

> I agree with you that it is a good design to separate mail
> fetch/notification  from the kmail application.  But there is no reason
> that couldn't be done in such a way that kmail (or any other application)
> could send a DBUS message that terminates the mail/fetch stuff that is
> running in the background.  That DBUS message could be attached to a GUI
> button that says, "Go Offline" or a checkbox setting for "Check for mail
> in the background".

Sure, but by default (as Laurent suggests), that's hurting the people with the good 
setup, as Ingo notes. I'm not sure that this UI belongs in KMail though -- the user 
might not even be running KMail. That's something we'll see, Lion Mail at least is 
not yet ready for this case, anyway.

Cheers,
-- 
sebas

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