[Kde-pim] Request to exclude KMail from the KDE 4.0 release

Kleag kleag at free.fr
Fri Dec 7 00:05:45 GMT 2007


Hello,

I'm sad to agree that the current state is unusable. My tries in the few past 
weeks were unsuccessful (I must admit not having reported the bugs; I 
apologize for that). Reading mails is OK for me but writing is wrong, as you 
state.

Concerning kontact, akregator is broken too for me. At least, the right pane 
often don't display the messages list of the selected feed. 

My 2 cents...

KLeag

Le jeudi 6 décembre 2007, Thomas McGuire a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> OK, here is my offical request to keep KMail out of the KDE 4.0 release.
> There are too many things badly broken (see list below), and there is only
> me and some occasional contributers working on KMail for trunk.
> I definitly don't have the time to fix these problems myself, even though
> we have another month until KDE 4.0 is released.
>
> I stronly oppose releasing KMail in the current state, because of the grave
> problems (like mail loss) it has. It would ruin its reputation and the
> users would be rightfully angry and disappointed.
>
> So please, exclude KMail from the release.
> Can this be done when tagging the release (or release canidates)?
>
> The question then is of course what to do with Kontact, as KMail is one of
> its most important components.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
> The list of the biggest problems (there are many more small problems of
> course):
>
> 1.
> Sends HTML mail by default, apparently with wrong content-type so nobody
> can read it.
>
> 2.
> According to Dmitry Suzdalev, using POP3 with Google Mail has many timeout
> errors (confirmed by me) and is even deleting mails from the server without
> retriving them.
>
> 3.
> Mails bigger than ~13 kB can not be sent.
>
> To quote Thiago:
> >"The problem is: kio_smtp is using TCPSlaveBase, which I had ported to
>
> QTcpSocket, but reverted due to no SSL support. So, please don't continue
> your port. Bear with the 1440 bytes limit or help me write the new SSL
> framework."
>
> >"Make SSL work first. Then all problems magically solve."
>
> So this won't work until the new SSL framework arrives.
>
> 4.
> The editor is totally broken due to the incomplete port to KMeditor in
> libkdepim. This is probably also the cause of 1). Some problems include
> fixed font not working, no green quote font, HTML mode suddenly being
> enabled after editing drafts/outgoing messages, HTML code appearing after
> changing identities, broken spellcheck, incorrect toogle actions and
> probably many more.
> The broken editor also prevents KNode from sending mails.
> Fixing the editor properly would take much time.
>
> 5.
> Encryption stuff propably does not work at all. Nobody looked at it during
> porting and on the krush days somebody reported that it doesn't work.
>
> 6.
> IMAP seems to have some bad bugs:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152652
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152692
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152756
>
> I guess the IMAP port is not entirely completed.
>
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
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