System-wide wireless connection bug

[Sebastian Kügler]

Hey guys,

On Thursday, March 10, 2011 21:45:11 Lamarque Vieira Souza wrote:
> Em Thursday 10 March 2011, Andrey Borzenkov escreveu:
> > >> > We still need user settings support for those who are not going to
> > >> > upgrade to NM 0.9 soon. Have you tested that branch against a NM 0.9
> > >> > snapshot?
> > >> 
> > >> No. It is very unlikely to work due to D-Bus API changes, secrets
> > >> handling changes, ...
> > >> 
> > >> I do not know if it possible at all to have support for both NM 0.8
> > >> and NM 0.9 in a single program. For a start, all NM lib major were
> > >> increased so it is not clear how to even compile such binary.
> > >> 
> > >> I thought more about current KNM 0.9 support NM 0.8 and move forward
> > >> to 0.10 (or whatever) with NM 0.9 support.
> > >> 
> > >> > I
> > >> > still need to figure out what kind of changes we will need to do in
> > >> > Solid::Control::NetworkManager (or its successor) to accomodate NM
> > >> > 0.9 specification. Maybe it is a good idea to create a new
> > >> > networkmanager-0.9 backend in kde://kde-workspace/solid/
> > >> 
> > >> Does it help?
> > >> 
> > >> http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/developers/migrating-to-09/
> > > 
> > > Hi guys,
> > > 
> > > yeah, NM 0.9 changes the API a bit, so it is not compatible with 0.8.
> > > Basicaly the API is simplified and applets can save a ton of code,
> > > because they don't have to deal with user connections.
> > > 
> > > Moreover, Dan would like to release NM 0.9 very soon (16th of March):
> > > http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2011/02/24/networkmanager-0-8-4-beta1-gets-
> > > al l-up- in-there/
> 
> 	That is too soon for KDE :-/

Well, we won't have it supported at release time, but having NM 0.9 out if 
important for us so we can start the transition.

> > > And it will be in Fedora 15 too. Most of the stuff that depends on the
> > > new NM is already changed. But the KDE'a applet is not ready. And we
> > > don't what to let KDE users down. I think it's better to do the work
> > > right in upstream than just make patches for Fedora.
> 
> 	I agree about working with upstream, that really helps.
> 
> > > I would suggest to create a new branch in the main repo for that to be
> > > able to have separate applets for NM 0.8 and NM 0.9.
> 
> 	Sebastian Kügler <sebas at kde.org> and  Will Stephenson
> <wstephenson at kde.org> have to approve that in my oppinion, specially
> because Will is officially the Plasma NM maintainer. Sebas, Will, what do
> you think?

Yes, that's what branches are for. :)

> > Wired/wireless should actually work I guess to fetch those properties
> > that are supported by Solid.
> > 
> > So yes, some adaptation of Solid is required for mobile to work.
> 
> 	I think it is better add a new Solid NM-0.9 backend
> (git://anongit.kde.org/kde-workspace/solid/networkmanagement-0.9) to deal
> with that changes in Solid. Anway, those changes are going to be available
> only in KDE SC 4.7, which is scheduled to be released late July, unless we
> get approval to change KDE SC's API before that. Releasing those changes
> before KDE SC 4.7 is another thing that should be discussed with Sebas and
> Will.

No strong preference from my side, what do others think? It would surely be 
nice if we had as little duplicated code as possible, but retain support for 
"older" versions of NM.

Cheers,
-- 
sebas

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