Problems with kdemultimedia package
charles at kde.org
Sat Oct 19 05:00:03 BST 2002
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Friday 18 October 2002 01:11 pm, skrev Pavel Troller:
> Sorry for crossposting this mail, but I'm trying to get at least SOME
> I have a feeling that kdemultimedia (and its "branch" in kdeaddons),
> one of the most popular and useful packages in KDE, are somewhat
> orphaned... It seems that there are many bugs which nobody tries to fix
> :-(. I did my best to help at least to track them down (by sending a
> backtraces, for which I've spent many hours of compiling and preparing to
> generate them). Sorry that I cannot do a real fixes but simply at my 40+'s
> it's not easy to learn C++ to the level which is required for it :-(.
Well, I try to fix crashes, but the age of my computer is... painfully
apparent. gdb here is nearly unusable (speedwise). I appreciate your
efforts, but often enough merely a backtrace is not enough.
And yes you can expect more patches to noatun before the release.
> So, the most annoying ones:
> 1) From upgrading to qt-3.1b2, noatun crashes on exit. Backtrace sent
> to kde-devel on Oct, 9. Still crashes.
Must be a Qt bug. You'd be able to more easily get my attention by using
> 3) For somebody (not me) noatun causes artsd to crash because of a
> "Preserve frequencies" feature in pitchablespeed. So somebody removed
> the feature instead of a real fix. And it's soooooooo nifty feature!
> The sound is not perfect in comparison with the proffessional
> harmonizer, but simply - it's nice to have it. Now I have one sticky
> tag to keep it, because it works here.
I commited that, arts has no maintainer. The bitrot has begun.
And a feature that crashes my machine is one that will be not shipped; because
I will inevitably be held to blame for if it fails for someone else, and you
try to tell a user "yeah, it crashes here too, see how competent we are?" ...
> And some less but also annoying ones:
> 4) In the noatun's equalizer, the 14kHz slider doesn't have any effect
> (don't blame my ears - yes, I'm 40+ but I still CAN hear above 14 kHz
> and my KOSS Porta PRO headphones are able to reproduce them :-) ).
> Either implement it (better way) or remove the slider.
I don't believe you. Be aware the slider is logarithmic. You won't easily be
able to hear the effect unless you raise the level isntead of lowering it.
This is something I have in store for kde 3.2, with a major Eq overhaul,
implmenting some really cool stuff.
My peak is a mere 14kHz in fact, and I'm merely 18. I suspect it's more to do
with genes and less to due with age. Although I guess going to rock concerts
doesn't help either ;)
> 5) Setting the stereo balance in noatun (like from the Winamp interface)
> doesn't work. One must use kmix.
That's because it's a useless feature, hence never implemented.
Or not one useful enough to warrant my adding it, and its cpu usage.
> 6) There are effects available in noatun which are doing nothing because
> they cannot be controlled (STEREO_PITCH_SHIFT) or just distort
> the sound (STEREO_PITCH_SHIFT_FFT). Either make them working or remove
Arts has no maintainer now, AFAIK. Shame, isn't it. What's necessary is for
their mcopclass file to be appropriately changed so they don't fall into the
noatun filter. Patches accepted.
> I'm a very big fan of the computer multimedia, especially sound
I just like music, so I wrote a media player. Except getting whiny emails
from users who don't like the software they're getting for free because of a
bug that's not in my code doesn't exactly motivate me, and the complaining of
certain developers due to certain design decisions that I made in the
software I wrote over the course of two and a half years also doesn't exactly
float my boat. I don't exactly see Alan Cox waving a banner with a certain
multi-pronged eating utensil in front of Linus Torvalds.
> processing - a simple tape recorder was my most favorite toy from my 4. I'm
> also a very big fan of KDE and I would like to see 3.1 really perfect.
> Maybe I'm a bit biased but I think that kdemultimedia is currently one of
> the most unstable part of it. I'm wishing the programmers unlimited sources
> of power to complete their Sisyphos's work with bug hunting and finishing
> their big work!
Noatun never crashes for me, that's all that counts, as far as I'm concerned.
Charles Samuels <charles at kde.org>
### <charles at altair.dhs.org> is obsolete, please update your addressbook.
"The world is my circuit board, and I am the electron."
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