[KDE/Mac] Question about goal of Windows/Mac frameworks

Alexander Neundorf neundorf at kde.org
Tue Oct 20 19:19:23 UTC 2015

On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 20:23:00 Christoph Cullmann wrote:
> Hi,
> > Christoph.
> > 
> > I have had similar goals for a while, but haven't reached the point
> > that I was having much success yet in that regard. One thing to keep
> > in mind when developing installers, Qt Installer Framework. I did a
> > quick test with attica on OS X I can put on reviewboard to see what
> > you think. I added a few lines to CMakeLists.txt to make it so you can
> > do make package, and it uses CPack and Qt Installer Framework to
> > create an installer application which can be used to download both
> > attica and attica-devel packages for OSX. I bet we could put together
> > a "meta" package for at least KF5 and maybe more which would 
> > of a CMakeLists.txt and a bunch of git clones beneath it could be 
> > to create one OSX or Windows installer that could then be used to
> > download applications and all their dependencies. I wasn't sure 
how to
> > add dependency information to the result of CPack's QIFW 
> > but it should be doable.
> > 
> > The result of all of that would be one tool for OS X and a similar one
> > for Windows that work exactly like the Qt online installers. Qt's
> > online installers are meant for developers though, not end users, so
> > we may need to improve QIF itself to make the resulting installer 
> > user friendly, we'll see. I meant to blog about all of this a week or
> > so ago, but haven't gotten around to it. What do you think of the idea
> > in general though?
> I am not really a fan of that idea, to be honest.
> I think that is more or less what we had in the past with the "kdewin"
> installer, that is like the cygwin installer pulling in all stuff you need
> and a set of applications in some common prefix.
> I am not sure that was such a success, compared to what e.g. Krita, 
> Digikam and others do: individual self-contained installers (or 
> I really think we should focus on making frameworks fit for that and 
> rebuilding some "micro-distro" with online installer for that operating
> systems.
> But that is just my opinion, perhaps I am wrong with that.

I fully agree with your POV.


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