[kde-linux] Korganizer no longer opens from system tray

Duncan 1i5t5.duncan at cox.net
Fri Sep 11 05:14:40 UTC 2009

AG posted on Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:25:14 +0100 as excerpted:

> Anne Wilson wrote:
>> The system tray icon is korgac only.  If you want korganizer to be
>> instantly available you have to minimise it to the Task Manager.
> "Task Manager"?  I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with that term, except in a
> MS Windows environment.  

UIAM [1], she's referring to the the place on the panel most environments 
list the running windowed applications by default. [2]  Thus, she's 
saying to minimize it, not close it.

> I am using Gnome as my DE with my preferred KDE applications within
> that environment.  I never experienced any problems
> with KMail nor Korganizer until relatively recently, and I have not
> changed my user behaviour over the last six or so months with respect to
> these applications.  On the basis of this, I can but conclude that the
> apps are not "behaving" according to my user expectations.

I've no idea what gnome offers in this regard, but on KDE, it's possible 
to set a window to minimize to the systray.  That appears to be what 
you're after.

Meanwhile, yes, kde4 is still broken in a number of ways compared to 
kde3, and in other ways it's not broken, simply changed behavior (by 
design).  So while I don't use korganizer, I'm not surprised at all that 
it's not working the way it did for you formerly.  /As/ I don't use it, I 
don't know if it's a bug or a deliberate design change, but as I said, 
there's a decent number of both in kde4.  I have no idea what the devs 
are thinking saying kde4 is ready for ordinary users, when important 
things like security certificate management is still simply broken, but 
that's what they're saying now.  Every version is vastly improved, from 
the previous, and to be fair, part of the problem is that kde is so big 
and kde3 had set such a high standard, that really /nobody/ could be 
reasonably expected to have brought a new version up to kde 3.5 standards 
in the time so far, but that doesn't change the fact that kde3 is losing 
support both from kde upstream and from distributions, well before kde4 
is even close.  A reasonable expectation given the rate of change would 
be that 4.5, probably August of next year, will finally hit the kde 3.5 
mark, but meanwhile, there's a serious gap in quality, functionality and 
usability from kde3.5.

> If I need to change my user behaviour to accommodate some changes within
> the apps themselves, then so be it, but I woyuld need to know what it is
> that I am supposed to be doing differently ... and at this point this
> isn't clear to me.

Well, at least you're being more flexible than many would be. =:^)


[1] UIAM: Onelook.com it, if necessary.

[2] Taskbar: Of course one doesn't /have/ to run a task bar aka task 
manager, and it's one of the first things I often remove from the panel, 
preferring to use other task switching alternatives, such as the present-
windows functionality available in kde4, or simply alt-tab.  That saves 
the panel space for other things, and tends to be more efficient, as well.

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