[kde-linux] Locking widgets doesn't work correctly

Anne Wilson cannewilson at googlemail.com
Tue Sep 1 07:29:02 UTC 2009

On Monday 31 August 2009 20:04:12 Duncan wrote:
> Anne Wilson posted on Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:51:53 +0100 as excerpted:
> > On Monday 31 August 2009 17:30:24 Duncan wrote:
> >> I issue a killall plasma-desktop
> >> command, from either krunner, or an open konsole window
> >
> > kquitapp plasma-desktop is the preferred command.
> kquitapp?  What's wrong with the standard unix style kill and killall,
> and the standard unix process signalling they use, as contrasted with
> this newfangled dbus stuff kquitapp apparently uses, according to its
> help output.
> At least the unix style commands have proper command line documentation
> in the form of manpages or info pages, which I mentioned both in the
> abstract and how to invoke them.  Even without direct documentation,
> they're well known apps with behavior that has been depended on for
> years.  Compared to that, I must say kquitapp looks about as "preferred"
> as a round of Russian Roulette... and the Russian Roulette seems to have
> better known behavior and documentation.
> That said, the kquitapp help output (about the best I can do in terms of
> documentation, at least without resorting to the Internet) indicates it's
> dbus based, much as kill and killall are standard Unix signal based.  I
> wonder if it's possible to use kquitapp to send dbus messages other than
> terminate/kill, as can be done with Unix signals?  Maybe it's even
> possible to tell it to save its files, without actually quitting.  dbus
> should handle that, but I'm not sure kquitapp can.  Documentation...

I'm not going to get into any arguments.  If the devs recommend kquitapp, then 
I'll use kquitapp.  I assume it includes but does more than the single unix 
command, probably including dbus controls.

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