[kde-linux] Another KDE 4.x print problem?
rdalek1967 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 4 12:18:39 UTC 2009
> Esben Mose Hansen posted on Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:50:46 +0100 as excerpted:
>> For my money, you are looking for something a lot more stable than
>> Gentoo. I'd suggest running Debian stable, or perhaps Redhats
>> "enterprise" branch. I think you'd be happier there.
> Ummm... I think not! I'm on gentoo ~arch (unstable) and testing stuff
> before it even gets in the main gentoo tree at times for a reason -- I
> like leading, even bleeding, edge.
> That's rather the point. I'm running gentoo, and a full kde4 now,
> /because/ I like leading/bleeding edge. kde4 at 4.3 is pretty much the
> ideal time to cut over for people like me, those that actually like the
> sometimes bleeding edge, and are willing to deal with the issues it
> entails. But 4.2 (even the last 4.2.4 which is when I got serious about
> the switch) was significantly stretching it, and I'd have waited for 4.3
> or even 4.4 if upstream kde3 support wasn't being dropped and "little"
> stuff like being able to compile it with the latest gcc and against the
> latest libs, and "little" things like security, becoming potential
> issues. It was those "little" things that pushed me to kde4, while it
> was still rather early to switch even for someone who usually runs
> bleeding edge stuff and is accustomed to (and appreciates the challenge
> of) finding fixes and workarounds for all the broken stuff.
> The biggest problem, therefore, isn't folks like me that are accustomed
> to working with bleeding edge, but those who want it to "just work",
> which is what kde has pretty much claimed for kde4, from 4.2. If people
> like me are having problems, $DEITY help the folks who just want what
> they run to work.
> Even then, the issues with kde4 wouldn't be as big a problem if kde3 was
> continuing to be properly maintained for both security and with/against
> newer compilers and system libs. It does seem the situation isn't as
> drastic as it was initially turning out to be, with kde3 support
> apparently continuing due to KDAB sponsorship and etc, but apparently
> it's not at a level the major distributions seem to be comfortable with,
> as they're starting to drop it. And the major distributions are exactly
> the types of places that these "ordinary users" are likely to be getting
> their kde, so if they're dropping it, from the user perspective, it's
I have to say that I agree with a lot of this. For me, KDE 4 is just
not quite there yet but it is making progress. I'm not really
complaining about KDE 4 not being ready but the fact that KDE 3.5 is not
being maintained while KDE 4 *GETS* ready. KDE 4 will be there pretty
soon. I'm thinking in 6 months KDE 4.5 will be out and be really really
really nice. We just have to use KDE 3.5 until that time comes is all.
I sort of feel like I am having KDE 4 shoved at me or forced to use it
even tho it is not ready because of the simple fact that KDE 3.5 is
being dropped to soon.
I'm a Gentoo user as well. I'm in the process of upgrading KDE right
now. I'm compiling 85 out of 249 packages as I type.
root at smoker / # emerge -uvDNp world | genlop -p
These are the pretended packages: (this may take a while; wait...)
Estimated update time: 8 hours, 26 minutes.
root at smoker / #
I'm looking forward to seeing what all has been added and fixed. Hurry
up and compile already. lol
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