[kde-linux] non KDE linux question

david gnome at hawaii.rr.com
Thu Mar 19 09:22:23 UTC 2009

Hi, Gaffer!

Thanks for everything below. I think you're right - I think the adapters 
I've tried aren't working. I bought 3, but so far have only tried 2. 
I'll try the third one.

I got an RMA form from the vendor, so I guess I'll be returning at least 2!

Gaffer. wrote:
> Hi David,
> On Tuesday 17 March 2009 10:36, david wrote:
>> James Richard Tyrer wrote:
>>> david wrote:
>>>> Sorry for a non-KDE question ...
>>>> I have some PATA > SATA adapters (to connect IDE hard drives to
>>>> SATA connectors).
> I use similar devices for service and maintenance.
>>>> According to the vendor, neither the adapters 
>>>> nor the drives attached to them will appear in the BIOS,
> If I plug a PATA drive into the SATA adaptor it shows up just fine in 
> the BIOS.  The only ones that don't are the USB -> SATA !  Having said 
> that I can boot from a USB attached PATA drive but not a SATA one !
>>>> but they 
>>>> should appear to the OS. Their example is (of course)
>>>> Windows-based, but the devices require and provide no drivers. I
>>>> particularly picked these adapters because one of the reviewers
>>>> who had bought one was booting Linux from a drive attached to the
>>>> adapter ...
> Was he using USB or was he actually plugged into the motherboard SATA ?
> I suspect the former !
>>>> So how can I figure out where the drives attached to these devices
>>>> are showing up, so I can add them to fstab?
>>> You shouldn't have to figure that out.  These are hardware adapters
>>> and I don't think that they have a driver.  You plugged the adapter
>>> into a IDE socket so it is still the same device.  All you need to
>>> figure out is how the Linux SATA driver works.
> I agree !
>>> Before you can add 
>>> anything to fstab, you will need to find it and partition it with
>>> fdisk.
> I'd still be a bit miffed though !
>> I simply need to find them. All the drives in question were in use in
>> my server on the previous motherboard (one of them is the old system
>> drive), all partitioned, etc. They're not showing up, period.
> Can you try the kit out on a Wins machine and confirm that they work as 
> advertised ?  Otherwise I would be returning the kit as faulty !
>> The only thing I can report about the Linux SATA driver running there
>> is it finds the one native SATA drive on ata1 and uses it just fine
>> as /dev/sda. dmesg shows the system then checks ata2/3/4 and reports
>> those SATA links down. The IDE drive attached to the motherboard's
>> one IDE controller appears as /dev/hda and is not either of the 2
>> missing drives.
> The more I study your post the more I think that the kit is faulty !
>> fdisk -l reports only the sda and hda drives mentioned above.
>> I get the same results using either the recently-updated Debian 5
>> system installed on it, or the December 2008 Sidux DVD ...
>> Does the SATA driver have options or something like that needed to
>> actually support more than one SATA port or something????
> Sorry I can't offer anything more at the moment.

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