[kde-linux] Thought in desperation
rdalek1967 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 3 23:25:20 UTC 2009
> Gmail posted on Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:37:30 +0800 as excerpted:
>> I know we might have the wrong distribution but we use the same base for
>> our office computers as for all our developed embedded systems. We have
>> used SuSE and now openSUSE for more than 10 years now. From time to time
>> we look at other distributions, but no.
> That's an impressive lot of stuff you have running on SuSE and KDE...
> I'm about to ask a question that could be taken the wrong way. Please
> don't. As much as you're doing with FLOSS, you should be held up as a
> success story for the community, not criticized for it, regardless of
> what the details are.
> << SNIP >>
> I do expect that by 4.5, kde4 will be getting finally comparable to kde3
> in usefulness and availability of kde-based non-core apps, and by 4.6, I
> fully expect they'll be on the way toward leaving the competition in the
> dust, but unfortunately, that /does/ leave a 1.5-2 year gap between when
> kde dropped its own support for the still-working kde3, and a /really/
> usable and comparable kde4. That gap is a huge problem! Fortunately
> there are a few options, but they certainly don't compare well to simply
> supporting the old version until the new one is a working (not just
> playing) replacement for it.
I'm not running a business off Linux or anything, just my little home
system but I do understand where Lars is coming from. Basically his
point is this, he's trying to run a business with a GUI that is not
working yet or has buggy software. I run Gentoo here and Gentoo gets
its sources from KDE. I just updated KDE 4 yesterday and went to check
on some things to see if it was usable just for my normal home use. It
still has things that are not working that I have to have. I'm back to
KDE 3.5 because it is a GUI that I can do my normal everyday things with
and not have to work around bugs and broken stuff.
I also think the point that Lars is trying to make is this, don't take
away what works just fine and then replace it with something that
doesn't and just expect people to wait until it does. It appears to me
that Lars is trying to run a business with his computer. The payroll
doesn't stop just because KDE 4 still has some bugs to work out and
features to work on. Lars needs computers and a desktop that works not
just a promise for the future.
Does anyone remember when Microsoft released a service pack that brought
millions of computers to a slow crawl? Does anyone remember what that
cost companies that couldn't get their work done? For me at least,
Linux should be better than that. I would love to see people using
Linux because it is better and because the developers are more careful
with their releases. When that happened, I would never have dreamed
that anything Linux would do the same as Microsoft. It appears to me
that it can happen. I'm glad KDE 4 is coming out but as I have said
before, KDE 3 should have been maintained until at least KDE 4.4 and
maybe even KDE 4.5 comes out. At least provide security and bug fixes
so that people that need to use it still can.
Hate me or not, this is where I am. KDE 4 is not ready. KDE 3.5 should
be maintained until KDE 4 is ready.
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