[kde-linux] Unpopulated Control-Center window

[david]

Dale wrote:
> James Loughner wrote:
>> On 12/01/2009 07:00 AM, Dale wrote:
>>   
>>> Stan Goodman wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>> At 11:07:03 on Tuesday Tuesday 01 December 2009, Dale 
>>>> <rdalek1967 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>> Stan Goodman wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>> My conclusion from your detailed explanation above is that trying to
>>>>>> retain KDE3 on an OS that wants to install only KDE4 is more trouble
>>>>>> than it is worth. When I reinstall the oS v11.2, it will almost
>>>>>> surely be with GNOME; I do not like KDE4, which is anyway unusable
>>>>>> for me because the "new and better" text module has a serious flaw
>>>>>> with right-to-left languages (Hebrew and Arabic). No doubt KDE will
>>>>>> get around to fixing it, but meantime I wouldn't have a usable
>>>>>> system. But I confess that I didn't like KDE4 before I discovered
>>>>>> this, and I regard having been pushed into KDE4 as a diktat of a kind
>>>>>> which I would have attributed only to Microsoft.
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>> You are not alone.  I'm not ready for KDE 4 either, or it is not ready
>>>>> for me yet.  Anyway, finding a distro that still has KDE 3.5 will be
>>>>> fun.  I downloaded a Madriva DVD but have not had the chance to install
>>>>> it yet to see what is included on it.  Would you be interested in
>>>>> Mandriva at least until KDE 4 got fixed where it was usable?  I could
>>>>> install and at least see if the basics worked or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dale
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)  :-)
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>> Sure. I'll also try GNOME on openSuSE. What I will avoid doing is making a  
>>>> second career out of trying to undo KDE's foolishness.
>>>>
>>>> And no, I don't think it is a matter of either users or KDE4 being ready. 
>>>> It's more a reflection of losing sight of convenience and usability, and 
>>>> concentrating on bells-and-whistles -- ala Redmond (what a good name for 
>>>> a desktop theme).
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>> I am also on the Gentoo lists and some of them have went to Fluxbox.  
>>>  From what they have wrote, it has improved a lot but is still really 
>>> light.  It may be something you want to look into if Gnome is not what 
>>> you want either.
>>>
>>> For me, KDE 4 still has some things that don't work for me.  It gets 
>>> better each time a new update comes out but is still not there.  I will 
>>> say this tho, it is different.  You are dead on with that observation.  
>>> It's not KDE 3 with improvements or a few tweaks.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> :-)  :-) 
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>> Odd I got used to it right away. Running Suse 11.2. Took about a day and
>> a half. It does thing you could not  possible do in 3.5. I have
>> configured 4 "desktops"  One as the traditional desktop, another as my
>> home directory, another into my development directory, the last is still
>> a blank canvass. I like it though it is definitely different.
>>
>> Jim
>>   
> 
> Well, the issues I ran into were discussed here.  There wasn't a way to 
> fix them with the current state of KDE 4, not that we could find 
> anyway.  I'm not saying that KDE 4 is bad because it is not, it's just 
> that some of the "features" I need are not working yet.  As soon as 
> those things get sorted out so that I can do my everyday things, I'll 
> most likely be on KDE 4. 
> 
> I will also say, as I have said before, there is a lot that I like about 
> KDE 4.  I'm not sure how well my old puter is going to like it but it 
> looks OK to me.  May have to get a newer video card for this ole thing. 

Maybe not, if you set KDE4 to lose all the eye candy. I have booted some 
Live Linux CDs with KDE4 on my 4+ year old Celeron laptop (stuck with 
the old Intel 8xx series video hardware) and the video hardware handles 
it fine if the eye candy is either turned off or very conservatively set.

LXDE runs very well on the old hardware. So does Fluxbox.

-- 
David
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