[kde-linux] Cannot access certain site

david gnome at hawaii.rr.com
Thu Mar 27 09:59:05 UTC 2008

Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 March 2008 19:19:24 david wrote:
>> Anne Wilson wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 26 March 2008 12:14:11 Dale wrote:
>>>> Sorin Schwimmer wrote:
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> My machine is still working to fix the problem
>>>>> described here:
>>>>> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-linux&m=120605290007266&w=2
>>>>> The problem is now a Gentoo problem.
>>>>> Meanwhile, I have to do my daily routine. In trying to
>>>>> do so, I found a website that I cannot access
>>>>> (although I could before switching to KDE 3.5.8).
>>>>> The website is this
>>>>> one:https://www.txn.banking.pcfinancial.ca/a/authentication/preSignOn.a
>>>>> ms ?referid=loginBox_banking_go It is my bank's site.
>>>>> Their server is up and running, as I can go there with
>>>>> a Firefox on a Windows box.
>>>>> I tried to change browser ID in Konqui, all the
>>>>> choices, one by one, and nothing helped.
>>>>> For now, I loaded a PuppyLinux from a CD and paid the
>>>>> bills that I had to pay, but I'd like to use my shiny
>>>>> new KDE and its Konqueror to accomplish this.
>>>>> Any idea is welcomed.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> SxN
>>>> I can confirm the same thing here.  Works fine on Gentoo Linux with
>>>> Seamonkey but Konqueror gives a error.  May be a bug in Konqueror but I
>>>> have no clue how to track it down.
>>>> At least you know it is not just you tho.
>>> There are some sites that konqueror just can't handle.  I suspect that
>>> they use M$'s 'extended' java.
>> Then why would it work in Firefox or Seamonkey on Linux, as the original
>> poster said? I don't think it has anything to do with MS.
> I assume that the Mozilla spin-offs use a work-around that cannot be added to 
> the existing code in Konqueror.

My credit union's website uses nothing more than standard Javascript - 
nothing to do with any MS 'extended anything'. It doesn't work in 
Konqueror - won't let you login, reports the account is locked and says 
to call their customer service number. It works in Firefox.

> Remember that much of Konqueror is old code.  
> It will be interesting to see whether the problem remains in KDE4.

It'll be a few years before I touch KDE4.

>> Konqueror has its own bugs. Somewhere in my email collection here I have
>> a link to a completely W3C-valid web site that blows up in Konqueror and
>> works fine in every other browser.
> What do you mean by 'blows up'?  What is the url? 

It was mentioned on this list and confirmed by other folk on the list as 
  failing in Konqueror 3.5.8. I just checked it, and the original site 
has been worked over so that it only partially fails in Konqueror now:


But it still doesn't work right in Konqueror, while being perfectly 
valid code that works in every other browser.

> Just interested.  Konqueror 
> under kde3 is not going to be fixed in that sense.  I'm not making excuses 
> for it, but it is obvious that some sites are asking it to deal with 
> something that simply wasn't around when the original code was written.  It's 
> no good worrying about what can't be fixed.

Software can always be fixed. It's not something like a car engine, 
immutable once made.

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