[kde-linux] Installing KDE4 on Sid

[David Baron]

>Found this one, apparantly on Sid rather than experimental: 
>kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4

>Attempt to install brings in a slew of other stuff (which may not actually be 
>available since this was the only thing found in a search for "KDE4" on Sid.

>I am NOT using udev. Too many problems reported (though live CDs using it 
>work 
>just fine on my system so maybe it is time ....). The installation of that 
>runtime seems to demand udev. So ... does KDE4 (or even KDE3.5.8--I have a 
>"konstruct" KDE3.5.6 on my system which works fine without udev!) really 
>require udev? I think not. So could this dependency be removed?

>(Udev dependencies seem to come about when a package wants to write udev 
>rules--alternatives are to simply flag the non-existant folder or create it 
>as there is nothing wrong with having the rules around even if I do not use 
>them--I have manually created these folders a few times already when the 
>error was flagged!)

>I manually eliminated the udev/hotplug exchange in synaptic's pane and 
>installed the rest of the mandated packages without a hiccup.

>NOW, the debian-experimental stuff will install so I will have a KDE4 
>installation!

>Postings here said that KDE4 will coexist with KDE3.* which it must until I 
>decide to get rid of the KDE3. Problems may occur because of $PATH and 
>$LD_LIBRARY. The konstuct $KDEDIR stuff is in front--probably did this 
>because of older stuff still on /usr/bin and /usr/lib. $KDEDIR=/opt/kde3.5.

>1. How do I fix this up to be able to choose kde3/kde4 from the kdm dropdown? 
>I would want to fallback to stuff I compiled for the kde3.5 that is not yet 
>compiled for kde4. I can presumably use --prefix=.../kde4...  for future 
>local compiles.

One thing. Kdm's do not mix. I changed /etc/init.d/kdm to point to the old 
stuff. Otherwize, I get the KDE4 kdm, splash, and then a slew of knotify 
crashes.

>2. Posting spoke of some migration from kde3 settings to kde4 settings which 
>are then stored in different place to allow coexistance. How does this work 
>(or do I just fire it up and see)?

>Thanks in advance for any help/advice!

Kcontrol (from the old kde) is now missing all of its menu items except 
"network". Do not know how to get them back but then again, I haven't touched 
this is months (year?).

Actually, all those items were in fact "kcmshell item" calls (they work) so I 
could manually restore them to that ktool submenu.

I had to restore the konqueror and kconsole buttons to my kickerbar after they 
got lost in the above experiment.

(Ldd trials produced no anomolies, all kde libs coming from my old kde.)