[kde-linux] konqueror: navigation panel stuck at zero width

[Robert Morrison]

Hello Perry:

Thank you very much for investigating and following up. Before I get 
to your specific points, I just want to say: boy, has this been a 
learning experience for me!

On Thursday 09 February 2006 12:13, Sylviane et Perry White wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 February 2006 21:16, Robert Morrison wrote:
> > > Have you tried F9 ?
> >
> > Thank you for the suggestion. I'm aware that that is how display
> > of the navigation panel is toggled. There is never any question
> > of whether the panel is being displayed, however. When it is, the
> > icons at the left of the panel and the vertical "thumb" are always
> > visible, even when the content part of the panel is at zero width.
> 
> O.K. Good description, your panel is visible with 0 size.
> 
> With Konqueror 3.4.0, I just saved my default profile under a new name and 
> reloaded it I, and observed the behaviour you described.

Well, at least I'm not crazy! ;)

> I even tried to just load the filemanagement profile a couple of times and 
> had  
> that behaviour... but on later attempts the navigation panel came back and I 
> can't reproduce that 0 size panel behaviour  any more using the same 
> actions..., feel I'm getting senile :-(

No, I don't think so. I've been searching/reading at bugs.kde.org,
(more on that below) and this seems to be a "comes and goes" kind 
of bug.

> I also tried to overwrite "myprofile" with a copy of "filemanagement"
> (	in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/profiles
> 	mv -f -T filemanagement.bak myprofile	)
> or to replace its content in KWrite
> but then "myprofile" disepeared from the list in load view profile. ??

The profile display name appears in the file; the above command would 
create a profile file called 'myprofile' with this line:
   Name=File Management
inside it. Is it possible that "File Management" appeared twice in 
your list of profiles?

> If it is possible to tinker with those profile files I didn't find how.

I was playing with profiles a while back, and I noticed that creating
a profile did two things:

1) created a file in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/profiles;
2) created a reference to that file somewhere else.

Unfortunately I don't remember what the details of "2" were.
So I tried creating a new profile with a random name (RANDOMNAME)
and then:

   $ cd ~./kde 
   $ find . -amin -5

to find all the files that were modified in the last 5 minutes.
That led me to look at:

./share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc. 
./share/config/konquerorrc? 
./share/config/profilerc 
./share/config/konqlistviewrc? 

without success. Then I tried (still from ~/.kde):

   $ grep -R RANDOMNAME .

which led me to:

./share/config/konqsidebartng.rc:

which does refer to profiles by name. (And there are some interesting
differences between the values for built-in profiles and the user-created
ones.) But I don't think it's the same file I remember. And I don't have 
time to investigate that more carefully right now.

> I noticed a few differences between "myprofile" and "filemanagement",
> I don't know why, and I don't think that would explain the behaviour.

But I agree that looking into those differences might help
find a fix or workaround.

> So I can't help but would be very interrested to read any follow up.
>
> Have you checked to see if that was already reported as a bug?

I searched a bit at bugs.kde.org; did not find this bug exactly,
but I found:

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76360

Reading that report, and the bugs it linked to, as well as other 
"navigation panel" bugs is ... educational.

I finally decided to submit this as a bug, but when I did, the 
bug system alerted me that I had an old version of KDE (3.4.2)
and strongly suggested that I upgrade and retest before submitting.

That sent me off on another research project: how to upgrade to
KDE 3.5 on openSUSE. I found out, but I finally decided not to 
upgrade. This is a case of "even though it's broke, I can still 
use it, and I'm afraid that trying to fix it will break it worse."
Sorry, I'm a trailing-edge kind of guy.

And finally: the reason I've been trying to use saved profiles
is that I wanted to be able to emulate Firefox's "open in tabs" 
behavior with Konqueor. That is, for each of my projects there is
a bunch of local directories that I want to have opened in tabs
in a single Konqueror window. I didn't see "open in tabs" in the 
Konqueror bookmarks menu, so I figured that Konqueror must use profiles
to do this (I knew that profiles had the capability to remember
open tabs). But while I was at the KDE bugsite, saw something
that clued me in to this: if you RIGHT CLICK on a folder in your
Konqueror bookmarks list, you get an option to "Open Folder in Tabs" 

So: now that I have a way to do what I was trying to do, this bug
doesn't bother me as much. If I ever get onto a current version of 
KDE (probably when I go to openSUSE 10.1), I'll test to see if this 
bug still exists.

Best regards,
Robert