[Kde-i18n-fa] farsi in RedHat 9

Hamid hrg27h at netscape.net
Sat May 3 17:15:21 CEST 2003


Great comparison, thanks buddy.
Well, I tried to download Libranet but it seems that I have to pay them 
(and I am a student :-\ ). So I will try Debian Woody.

Thanks
Hamid


a.ameri at linuxiran.org wrote:

>On Saturday 03 May 2003 19:30, Hamid wrote:
>  
>
>>By the way, why all you guys are a great fan of RedHat ;)
>>Is it because they have the largest share of the Linux market or they
>>really have problem.
>>I have not tried any other distribution, but as far as easy setup and
>>variety of applications is concerned, I did not find any drawbacks.
>>
>>If you would suggest something rather than RedHat , what would it be
>>?
>>    
>>
>I don't care weather they are big or not. Infact they are only number 
>one in US, in Europe SuSE is No 1, in Latin America Connectiva is No 1, 
>and in Asia (southeast at least) Turbo Linux is No.1 and in hacker's 
>culture, they are not in the top 6 or 7. All these sayings that RedHat 
>is the biggest one is just myth. From the financial point of view they 
>are strong, (Because for example Gentoo and Debian do not care about 
>finance). But many admins and developers prefer non RedHat distros.
>
>Yes, there are many things wrong with RedHat, I will list a few of them 
>here:
>
>1) RedHat patents it's software. They have used this method before 
>(Regarding Ingo Molnar's work on kernel). Patents are heavily disliked 
>in the GNU/Linux world.
>
>2) Their distro by default runs too many services in the boot sequence. 
>Like M$ they assume the the user is dumb, and therefore they start all 
>the services by default, so that they make it *user friendly*. Sorry 
>but I am not dumb. Services make the boot sequence take longer, and 
>they are also a security risk. Why does RedHat for example always start 
>CUPS even though I have no printer? Not mentioning that CUPS is a great 
>security treat.
>
>3) They enable all kernel modules. Again, following the *user is dumb* 
>policy they enable all the kernel modules by default. That means 
>RedHat's kernel support things that are never going to be used in the 
>system. This makes the kernel bigger and slower.
>
>4) They are slow with security upgrades. When applications announce 
>security patches, it usually takes RedHat two months to incorporate 
>these patches back into their distro. For Debian, it takes about 48 
>hours. Sorry, but many can't run a system with known vulnerabilities.
>
>5) RPM : They invented this bloat, and they seem never like getting rid 
>of it. If you use a RedHat box for a long time, you will know what a 
>pain it will be to install new applications. Each application depends 
>on something else, with the dependency it self depends on something 
>else. And you have to search in all this RPM repositories scattered 
>over the net, just to find these dependencies. The solution, Debian 
>found the solution years ago with apt, Connectiva ported apt to their 
>RPM based distro and (partly) solved the problem. Gentoo solved the 
>problem from another route (From FreeBSD's method). While RedHat seems 
>to like screwing it's users.
>
>6) Recognition, Their software is just a distro right? They use software 
>made by other people, they use these software, and they make money with 
>other people's software. Nothing is wrong until here, but they at least 
>don't give the original writers recognition and credit. They changed 
>the famous Linux Kernel logo (tux), they changed KDE logo, they removed 
>about KDE menu from all KDE applications and so on. As Hans Reiser 
>(God) puts it, they just want show off their own brand name. Never care 
>other people.
>
>7) Problems with KDE. It was no secret that RedHat doesn't like KDE, but 
>from RedHat 8, they really pissed off, and made it ... Ooops, a bloat. 
>They changed KDE so much to make it like Gnome, and in the process the 
>removed many KDE's features, they broke KDE, RedHat's KDE has got bugs 
>which KDE itself doesn't have and so on. While according to surveys, 
>KDE is the most popular window manager. So KDE lovers (you are in a KDE 
>mailing list remember?) don't like RedHat, for breaking their software.
>
>9) Their system is not stable. RedHat 9 comes with a 2.4.21 kernel, 
>while 2.4.21 hasn't been released yet. Which simply means that they are 
>using a beta kernel. Not to mention all the features they added from 
>unstable 2.5 to 2.4. Everybody still remembers how they screwed things 
>in 7.0 with using a beta glibc. Unfortunately many people still say 
>that 6.2 was their last good release, to date.
>
>10) and lots of other weird activities, like getting money from the 
>Chinese government to remove the Tiwane flag from their distro. While 
>all other distros refused to do this, and apple and even M$ refused to 
>do so. Chishhhhhhhhhh...
>
>What is the choice? old time GNU/Linux users prefer Slackware, many 
>(like me and Arash Zeini) prefer Debian, and Gentoo has also made so 
>much inroads recently. If you only use x86, then Libranet gives you a 
>Debian with the ease of use and hardware detection. And you also 
>mentioned something about choice of applications, remember that 
>GNU/Linux is not Unix, every single application which runs on RedHat 
>also runs on all other GNU/Linuxes (and vice versa). And talking about 
>the number of available binaries, nothing perhaps beats 8000 binaries 
>which come with Debian Woody.
>
>But in the end, the choice of distro is a personal one. People often 
>argue and flame each other for their choice (like what I am doing) but 
>the perfect thing about GNU/Linux is that it gives choice for nearly 
>everything. If you don't like any available GNU/Linux, then build your 
>own one (LFS).
>
>Cheers
>
>
>  
>

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