[Kde-hardware-devel] 2009 introspective

Adriaan de Groot groot at kde.org
Tue May 5 23:57:37 CEST 2009

On Tuesday 05 May 2009, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> Hi all,
> Mardi, le 5 mai 2009, à 16:01, Adriaan de Groot a écrit:
> > there are better plans for UPnP integration across
> > the KDE desktop, with at least three "rival" non-communicating
> > disconnected efforts going on (Amarok internals, coherence, Jolie and
> > network:/ are keywords here).
> IMHO this sounds a bit to harsh, pardon me. To my knowledge there is
> communication, just low-frequency and small content. Bart from Amarok
> invited some to the meeting in Paris next weekend (?). And the network:/
> kioslave has no UPnP stuff in it yet, due to me being without UPnP
> knowledge and devices/use cases.

Ah, perhaps the disjointedness is less bad than I thought. Certainly given 
Aaron's comment on JOLIE as well, it suggests that the UPnP club is smaller 
than expected and that I'm in several of the "rival" camps. 

> So I just wait for and try to encourage 
> those who do have these to add an UPnP backend for the kioslave (see
> kdebase/runtime/kioslave/network/network/builder) and perhaps cooperate on
> the contained network library as a whole. No rivaling here :)

Privately you and I have communicated about UPnP in network:/, and I'm 
attending the Amarok / coherence thing this weekend. I've got a nice Qt app 
up and running that manages enough stuff that would make sense in network:/ 
by now; integrating that into the KDE code is something for later this month.

> But sure, things could improve a lot. It may mostly lack someone with UPnP
> knowledge pushing things, so others can join the efforts.

Are there any *other* HW related things going on? Does consolekit count? Does 
powerdevil? I don't think Dario is on this list, but perhaps he should be. In 
many cases I'm worried about the long-term cross-platformness of KDE -- not 
restricted to Solid or powerdevil -- because of the enormous weight that 
modern-linux-based developers put on the scale compared to other platforms 
(to the point of no, kde 4.2 won't compile with last year's xorg, let alone 
non-xorg platforms).

That, however, is a different thread.

These are your friends - Adem
    GPG: FEA2 A3FE Adriaan de Groot
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