[kde-guidelines] Grouping HIG

[Andrew Lake]

For clarity, preserving groupboxes, albeit with zero visual ornamentation,
is a simple way to get consistent spacing between groups of visual
elements. So I think there is some value in preserving and providing
guidelines for their use. What matters is changing the Appearance
guidelines to steer away from suggesting that anything other than the
spacing provided by the groupbox is necessary to establish a visual
relationship between visual elements.

Hope this helps,
Andtew
On May 31, 2014 12:45 AM, "Jens" <jens at ohyran.se> wrote:

> I agree fully with the removal of group boxes (as it's just sloppy text
> layout)
>
> I would like to add the need for mockups and examples in the HIG? If we can
> agree on a layout form we could post hacky layout examples to assist in
> defining relations from not just a technical standpoint but a usability
> stand
> point?
>
> On Friday 30 May 2014 15.55.32 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > the discussion on a recent review request by Sebas [1] and especially
> > Andrew's comment on it, highlights that we should rethink our Grouping
> HIG
> > [2]. It currently suggests to use groupboxes as the standard way to group
> > controls inside a form, but Sebas as well as Andrew have stated that
> there
> > may be better ways to do that. In order not to let practice drift away
> from
> > the HIG, we should think about updating the HIG.
> > Andrew, since you're our "Master of Layout" now, could you propose a
> change
> > to the HIG to fit your vision for form grouping? That would be great!
> > Thanks,
> > Thomas
> >
> > [1] https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/118390/
> > [2] http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/GroupBox
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