[kde-guidelines] [KDE Usability] Password Field

Albert Astals Cid aacid at kde.org
Sat Dec 7 18:32:41 UTC 2013


El Dissabte, 7 de desembre de 2013, a les 09:39:01, Björn Balazs va escriure:
> Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2013, 22:44:17 schrieb Albert Astals Cid:
> > El Divendres, 6 de desembre de 2013, a les 13:12:21, Björn Balazs va
> 
> escriure:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > working with Jan on the Networkmanager, I stumbled over a problem we
> > > face
> > > in many areas:
> > > 
> > > Entering Passwords
> > > 
> > > The problem I want to address is about the visibility of the password.
> > > To
> > > avoid errors, it would be cool to see the password, but if I am in an
> > > public environment, this might be not such a good idea.
> > > 
> > > Hence the visibility depends rather on my environment, than on the
> > > actual
> > > password I have to enter.
> > > 
> > > I think this is something we should solve centrally. I think of
> > > something
> > > like:
> > > 
> > > Password: [____________][VIS]
> > > 
> > > So there should be toggle button [VIS] directly attached to the password
> > > field that toggles the visibility. I could imagine that its state could
> > > be
> > > stored centrally, so when I have to enter the next Password, visibility
> > > is
> > > like it was the last time.
> > 
> > You say that "the visibility depends more on the environment than on the
> > password" so I do not understand why you want to store the visibility
> > since
> > it's very possible that my environtment has changed. I think we should
> > always default to "hiding" the password in a password field.
> 
> I assume that the environment does not change that often. When I work in a
> train (and hence want to hide passwords) I do this for quite some time. So I
> thought I might be a good idea to keep the last state. Also there is not a
> lot of potential harm, as you immediately see whether the password is shown
> or not - so you can toggle the mode to the desired state.
> 
> The idea is to be convenient - which most of the time somehow interferes
> with security.

Right, and none of the systems i've used and that includes pretty much 
everything (Windows, MacOs, IOS, Android, Symbian, Meego, BB10) remember the 
"show visibility" option.

So let's not do that please.

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> What do others think?
> 
> Cheers,
> Björn
> 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> >   Albert
> >   
> > > Perhaps we could even bind it to some environmental variables, like:
> > > Power
> > > not attached? -> Hide Password.
> > > 
> > > Side note: There are some solutions, that display the last entered digit
> > > for a short time, so a toggle solution might be not sufficient - or we
> > > need a 3 state toggle something...
> > > 
> > > What do you think?
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Björn
> > > 
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