[kde-guidelines] Hello: Anybody home

[James Richard Tyrer]

Celeste Lyn Paul wrote:
> Yes, we are working on the HIG.  Ellen and I have two interns who are helping 
> us this summer duing the OpenUsability SoU.  Unfortunately Ellen and I were 
> the only ones really working on the HIG before then and we had other things 
> to work on for KDE4 besides the guidelines last year.
> 
> The problem now is getting everything documented in a place people can see it 
> and developing patterns and examples which are easier to interpret than 
> written guidelines. This page is the best page to list questions and requests 
> for guidelines.
> 
> https://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Usability/HIG_Questions
> 
> I agree that anything that does not conform to the HIG should be reported as a 
> bug.  The only problem is writing a comprehensive enough document so when we 
> do submit bugs, we can reference the rule that is broken.  Lots of work, and 
> not enough hands and time.  I think come the end of the summer the HIG will 
> have enough of a base that we can extend contribution out to the greater 
> community.
> 
Good to hear that you are working on this.

I posted two questions on the Wiki.

I have some specific concerns about Okular and GwenView.

They both have issues regarding recent changes.

Both have had needed zoom and fit options removed from the View menu.

Although I basically like the GwenView status bar, it needs some work. 
It really needs to be configurable.  I regularly use "Fit to Page 
Height" and "Fit to Page Width.  Also, since the "Zoom" function has 
gone missing there needs to be some way to set a more precise zoom 
factor than the slider.  I keep suggesting a widget that looks like this:

	< ------|--- >

Where the the "<" & ">" represent buttons for fine control of the slider.

With Okular, "Zoom" seems to have disappeared from the View menu 
although you can still add it to the toolbar.  Perhaps this is just a 
bug.  OTOH,  I simply do not understand the status bar.  It partially 
duplicates the toolbar.  There is a need to show the current page number 
somewhere.

In both cases, these 'status' bars are really more like toolbars except 
that they are not configurable.

There are issues with some of the KDE Standard Actions:

       Back
       Forward

       FirstPage
       Prior
       Next
       LastPage

       DocumentBack
       DocumentForward

and we are using the same 4 icons for all of three contexts these.  This 
is an issue when more than one of the contexts appears on toolbars.  See:

http://home.earthlink.net/~tyrerj/kde/KDE-4/KSA-Okular1.png

Which has all of the above actions in it.

I think that we need different icons for these.  See:

http://home.earthlink.net/~tyrerj/kde/KDE-4/KSA-Okular2.png

which shows this with different icons for each of the three contexts.

My icons for my icon theme are:

http://home.earthlink.net/~tyrerj/kde/KDE-4/go-icons_KDE4.tar.bz2

and the code patch:

http://home.earthlink.net/~tyrerj/kde/KDE-4/standard_actions0.diff

This has been posted:

http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=121377629710574&w=2

But the issue has basically been ignored.

-- 
JRT