[Kde-games-devel] Freeze in 6 weeks

[Jeremy Whiting]

Ian,

Albert was arguing to keep using kio, not to remove it... I believe he's on
our side :). At any rate, how were klauncher and kded and such issues
solved in kdelibs4 on osx? I can put some time into fixing the kf5 versions
to do the same thing.

BR,
Jeremy

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Ian Wadham <iandw.au at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Inge,
>
> On 29/01/2015, at 12:04 AM, Inge Wallin wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 07:38:23 laurent Montel wrote:
> >> I am agree with Albert if there is a problem with network-transparency
> on
> >> MacOsX it's better to fix it that remove it.
> >
> > That is not the issue. The issue is that it was promised that if you
> developed
> > your program with KDE Frameworks 5 instead of KDElibs, you would get a
> more
> > lightweight program that did not need any daemons to run.
>
> Was there ever a specification that said that, or better still a detailed
> design
> document, and is there a published plan?  I would really like to know.
>
> If none of the above, I can see kdeinit5, klauncher5, kded5, drkonqi and
> kio5
> becoming major hurdles in the way of releasing KF5 and Frameworks on
> MacPorts and Apple OS X.
>
> Cheers, Ian W.
>
> > Now this turns out to be not true.   *That* is what we want, not to
> remove
> > network transparency per se. But if the promise from frameworks 5 is not
> kept,
> > what is there to be done?
> >
> >> And this problem will be in other application.
> >> It's not just a problem with kdegames so fix it for kdegames will fix
> for
> >> all application.
> >>
> >> We can't remove feature each time we need to fix on a specific platform
> no ?
> >
> > Yes, it will be in other applications.  But that is the price you have
> to pay
> > for platform portability sometimes.
> >
> > I never thought it was reasonable to have to start the full KDE desktop
> > infrastructure just to run an application from the KDE on, say, Gnome.
> But
> > that's what we had to do back in the kdelibs days. Frameworks 5 was
> supposed
> > to get rid of that but now it turns out that it doesn't.  The question
> is: is
> > this just not yet implemented or was this design goal abandoned?
> >
> > This is what we need to focus on. Network transparency is *not* the
> issue.
>
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