[Kde-games-devel] ksokoban

[Ian Wadham]

Let me say this up front … although I am the oldest KDE Games
and perhaps the longest-serving in the group, I am not in charge.
Nobody is.  We decide things by discussion and consensus here,
within policies of the KDE group as a whole.  Several years ago
the consensus was to let KSokoban go.  I was sad to see that
happen.  Maybe the consensus would be different today.

In my earlier email, I have laid out what I understand to be the
situation re KSokoban and Magazynier.

What do others think?

On 03/08/2012, at 8:40 AM, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El Dijous, 2 d'agost de 2012, a les 20:38:16, Kantacki va escriure:
>> All I can offer is better adaptation of KSokoban to KDE4 (excluding
>> images) and better look in bigger screen resolutions (recreating images
>> in bigger resolutions in povray).

That could be good.  IIRC the background in KSokoban has gone wrong, BTW.
It should be a galaxy and nebula view, but it has been tiled, so you get repeating
small pixmaps.  The problem is that the original background does not have enough
pixels.  It should not be hard to find a more detailed star field somewhere.  Also,
it might look better if the floor of the warehouse was transparent, so you could
see more of the back ground.  Just a suggestion.

>> Your email suggests that you do not want to see KSokoban in kde-games.

Well, speaking personally, I would prefer to see Magazynier completed.  But if
that is not possible …

>> I ported ksokoban to KDE4 because I use it and due to problems with old
>> version KSokoban in new Linux distributions porting was neccessary.

Well, yes, we all know how you feel and we all have our favourite games.

But we are also dedicated to producing games that can be released by any
distro, will run on any platform and can be translated into many languages,
with a KDE look and feel and a choice of nice graphics.

It is also desirable to be able to add level sets without re-coding (or even to
have a game editor).  IIUC Sokoban has lots of levels out there on the Internet
and the file format KSokoban uses is also in common use.

>> I could take care of Magazynier but only for money because I do not use
>> it and do not need it.

We do not work for money.  If you are enjoying KSokoban, it is because
some people put a lot of free time into developing and maintaining it.

>> For me KSokoban, especially its graphics is the best from all known
>> sokoban games.
>> So please confirm that you are not interested in KSokoban and I will not
>> bother anymore on this list
> 
> What part of 
> 
> "Why is this development happening in sourceforge instead of in kde.org git 
> repos?"
> 
> Makes you think we are not interested?

Absolutely.  And if you wish to go on working on KSokoban, we should
get you the last known version of the source code from the "unmaintained"
part of the KDE SVN repository, maybe into playground.  Amongst other
things, the history includes a whole lot of extra levels, which were
inexplicably removed when the Sasquatch levels came in.

BTW, KSokoban does not have to go back into KDE Games.  It could go
into KDE extragear, where the rules about releases, etc. are less strict.

Cheers, Ian W.