[kde-freebsd] kde4 upgrade

[Rusty Nejdl]

On 2012-07-05 15:06, joaoBR wrote:
> Em Thu, 05 Jul 2012 14:38:38 -0500
> Rusty Nejdl <rnejdl at ringofsaturn.com> escreveu:
>
>> On 2012-07-05 14:17, joaoBR wrote:
>> > Em Thu, 05 Jul 2012 13:18:36 -0500
>> > Rusty Nejdl <rnejdl at ringofsaturn.com> escreveu:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well, the one example you include is a busted port:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ===>   libkonq-4.8.4 is already installed
>> >> >>        You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this 
>> port
>> >> >> again
>> >> >>        by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly.
>> >> >>        If you really wish to overwrite the old port of
>> >> x11/libkonq
>> >> >>        without deleting it first, set the variable
>> >> >> "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install"
>> >> >> command line.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You simply need to deinstall and reinstall that one as it is 
>> not
>> >> >> installed fully/correctly.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> portmaster -f libkonq
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That doesn't seem that big of a deal and should cover a 
>> portion
>> >> of
>> >> >> your issues... what's next?
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > you do  not need to repeat what I already have said ...
>> >> >
>> >> > take your time to read my last comment for better understanding
>> >> >
>> >> > I know how to solve the problems, thing is that makes the 
>> problem
>> >> > not go away
>> >>
>> >> These comments are not going to get you any help.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > but I am curious, what make you think the port is busted?
>> >>
>> >> Whenever I see the above, it is because a port shows as being
>> >> installed but then a piece of it is missing (a specific file) so
>> >> the ports system tries to reinstall it.
>> >>
>> >>  From reading your emails, including this one, I don't think you
>> >> want
>> >> to get this fixed and instead want to complain about this.
>> >
>> > slow down, don't assume things ... you have not read with 
>> attention
>> > before
>> >
>> > I explain again
>> >
>> > no port is damaged (or busted), before starting the upgrade 
>> process
>> > everything is fine as reported by pkgdb -F, pkgdb -L and 
>> pkg_libchk,
>> > absolutely clean and everything working fine and smooth
>> >
>> > then, sooner or later while upgrading, one dependency port is 
>> still
>> > the former version
>> >
>> > the install script looks for the actual version which is not
>> > installed
>> > and goes to "add the apparently missing port"
>> >
>> > after compiling it, it tries to install it AND NOW IT IS FAILING
>> > because the port is already installed, that was quite clear to see
>> > in the attached file
>> >
>> > what was necessary was an upgrade and not a new install
>> >
>> >
>> > ok, better explained now?
>> >
>> >
>> > and that is the reason WHY `portupgrade -a` is not working for the
>> > kde4
>> > upgrade, because it IS necessary to proceed in a certain order for
>> > not
>> > being caught by this problem
>> >
>> > BTW this problem is an old and nasty upgrade problem, only it is
>> > easy to
>> > solve when only one or two ports are envolved
>>
>> I have seen some bumps on upgrades and usually for the major ones, I
>> wait about 2 days for any port changes to occur and then run the
>> upgrades.  I have to ask but did you follow the instructions in
>> /usr/ports/UPDATING?  If not, you will run into problems like this.
>>
>
> come on ... don't through it on me and do not make such kind of
> questions, part of this thread is that the instructions from UPDATING
> are not accurate
>
> so, back to the issue:
>
> have you understood what is happening?

I hear that you have reported something that I cannot reproduce.  I 
have to ask how I can reproduce it or we cannot help either improve what 
you did or improve the process.

I did not have this happen to me and I am trying to understand why but 
when I ask questions, you keep telling me to read but I have read your 
emails and they are general and lack anything actionable since I and 
others cannot reproduce this with the limited information.

>
> If yes, then read further, the real problem starts after it, want to
> know what it is?
>
> the to-be-upgraded port was build, the original or former version was
> already DE-INSTALLED
>
> the install pre-check detects a missing port and starts the process I
> explained in the former message
>
> NOW. remember, it fails because of wrong version detection and tried
> to install instead of upgrading the dependency

The only other idea I have here is that your port tree is corrupted and 
should be removed and repulled but I bet you will give me some further 
comments about not reading what you have written.  Again, I did not have 
these issues.

>
> NOW, the upgrade process fails because of the failing install process
>
> AND NOW the original to be upgraded port IS NOT on the system any 
> more,
> it is not being RE-INSTALLED under this conditions we are speaking
> about!
>
> BUT the upgrade-all-process goes on with the next port in line as
> supposed to
>
> BUT now more and more things fail, because of MISSING parts
>
> NOW you have to identify everything one-by-one and the nightmare
> starts, because now it ends up in real work
>
>
> and please, if you pretend to through it on me or my machine or 
> setup,
> don't spend your time, don't answer, don't  worry  and lets wait 
> until
> somebody gets it
>
> thanks