[kde-freebsd] KDE4 is out, I'm back, let's get cracking

Andy Fawcett andy at athame.co.uk
Mon Jan 14 17:38:30 CET 2008

On Monday 14 January 2008 18:30:27 Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I was and still am rather short on time and will not nearly be able to
> put full days of work into KDE at the moment, but now that the escape
> has occured, there's something substantial to work with at last.
> Steps to KDE4 as I see them:
> Step 0 is tying up some loose ends like updating Qt4 to the latest
> version and the like - arved, I saw you committed checksums, I can take
> it from here if you want me to - I have some scripts lying around for
> updating Qt4 rather painlessly and also still have access to fruitsalad
> for checking/generating plists.
> Step 1 is deciding what to do about that nice boulder that Novell^WKDE
> rolled in our path: prefixes. You cannot build KDE4 in same prefix as
> KDE3. Period. You cannot easily build KDE4 either if KDE3 is in
> /usr/local and if Qt3 is in /usr/local and KDE4 is supposed to end up
> somewhere in /usr/local. I'd like to hear about experiences from people
> who already built large parts of KDE4 on systems with KDE3 installed -
> how much effort and hackery do we need to make things build with leaving
> Qt3 where it is? Would it be worthwhile to just make a clean cut and
> move Qt3, Qt4 and KDE3 into their own subdir below /usr/local after all?
> I am prepared to do it, if need be (I suppose nobody wants to go down
> the CONFLICTS road).
> Step 2 will be getting all the modules to build and to run somewhat
> reasonably. It will be just like the old days, lots of swearing and
> patching and 80% of KDE working in the beginning and 95% of KDE working
> just before KDE5 will come out. :)
> Step 3 will be cutting up the distribution modules into smaller pieces
> whereever possible/sensible and possibly write a kde.mk for the task.
> Step 4 will be then dumping KDE4 into ports. I fully expect that the
> first version of KDE4 to be committed to ports will *not* be 4.0.0, but
> I have been wrong before.
> Comments, flames, additions?
> Cheers,

Sounds good. I'm up for it, with the limited time I have available.

For #1, let's not fight it, just pop the old stuff into its own prefix if 
possible. Can we have a rc.d script that would add the new path to PATH, 
XDG_ENV, etc? What about other kdelibs/qt3 consumers?

Andy Fawcett                                     | andy at athame.co.uk
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