HIG standards (

Mark markg85 at gmail.com
Sun May 13 20:58:49 UTC 2012


On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Rick Stockton <
rickstockton at reno-computerhelp.com> wrote:

>  On Saturday 12 May 2012 18:36:42 Mark wrote:
>
> > / As for making a "HIG" keyboard standard list. A very good starting
> > point is:
> />/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_keyboard_shortcuts />/
> />/ Every single line where the same key combination is used in both:
> Windows,
> />/ Mac, KDE en GNOME can be considered as de-facto standard key imho.
> Though
> />/ the list has to be viewed with care since the very first item "Activate
> />/ current application's Menu bar" is already wrong for KDE. It's not just
> />/ ALT. It's ALT + M iirc.
>
> Here's our online reference for KDE keyboard shortcut HIG:
> /http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/Keyboard_Shortcuts
>
> Ctrl-M toggles the visibility of the bar /(without selecting it). Some KDE
> Applications implement this (e.g. Gwenview, Dolphin), but others do not
> (e.g., KDevelop). None of these 3 applications provide "Focus to the Menu
> Bar" via F10, as documented in our guidelines. Dolphin uses that key to
> create a new item, and the other two seem to completely ignore the key
> event.
>
> I'll recheck the Qt "StandardKey" table and documentation later tonight ,
> maybe scribble some fixes. But it looks like Wikipedia is wrong about "Alt
> + M" on KDE.
> BTW, Here are some other references for keyboard shortcuts:
>
>
> http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/userexperience/conceptual/applehiguidelines/KeyboardShortcuts/KeyboardShortcuts.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40002725-SW2
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb545461.aspx
>
> http://developer.gnome.org/hig-book/3.0/input-keyboard.html.en#standard-shortcuts
>
> />/ While looking at that wiki list i'm quickly realizing that we're never
> />/ going to get a standard keyboard + mouse mapping for generic keys
> across
> />/ all major desktop environments.
>
> That's because no such conventions exist- yet. We'll be the first to
> create them. It's possible that the GNOME people will cooporate with us,
> and share certain values, if we let them know what we came up with. (That
> would be helpful, of course.)
>
>
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> For Ctrl + M, there was a technical reason why it wasn't just ctrl - like
in windows - but i forgot the reason. If someone could explain the
reasoning behind that?
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