New KDE application

[Thomas Baumgart]

Hi,

On Montag, 15. Januar 2018 13:00:13 CET Rahul Chowdhury wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:25 AM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
> > El dimecres, 10 de gener de 2018, a les 23:49:06 CET, Sayan Biswas va
> > 
> > escriure:
> >> Hi,
> > 
> > Hi
> 
> Hi,
> 
> >> A very happy new year to all. Hope you guys are doing good. :)
> >> 
> >> Me and Rahul (CC'ed; IRC nick - rahulch) came up with an idea for a
> >> new application in KDE, and we were hoping to get an opinion on it.
> >> 
> >> The central idea behind the app will be to manage the expenses of a
> >> group of users. As a user, you can create one or more groups, add
> >> members to them, and add entries for expenses for a given group. You
> >> can also check the outstanding balances and choose to settle-up with one
> >> or more members. There will be options for fine-tuning a given entry -
> >> decide who all have born the total expenditure and by what
> >> proportions, how should the total expense be divided among the members
> >> (equally/specific amounts/etc), add pictures for receipts, add
> >> comments, and so on and so forth.
> > 
> > So somthing like a Splitwise Free Software clone, have you checked if one
> > already exists? I know starting is half the fun, but maybe joining an
> > existing project that does something similar and help them build a
> > desktop application would also be nice.
> 
> Yes, the idea is very much similar to Splitwise. They do not have any
> desktop version yet.
> We wanted to have some similar free desktop application in KDE.
> 
> >> We are planning to start off with desktop application with a
> >> decentralised
> >> approach, i.e. the users will hold the data of the shared expenses. Now
> >> again, there is a possibility of tampering with the expenditure so we
> >> might
> >> need to set a centralised archived or something similar data set to
> >> maintain the integrity and persistence of a transaction. We are open to
> >> opinions and discussions for this also. Further to that we will be
> >> building
> >> mobile application for the users ease of usage and add expenditure on the
> >> go. After all, mobiles are more widely used by user than desktop
> >> application.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> For settling up we were thinking of integrating some standard payment
> >> gateways (PayPal, etc) but I am not sure of how much of this
> >> integration is possible in KDE.
> > 
> > I don't understand this question, just open a webview to paypal and be
> > done?
> Not just open a webview or redirect to some paypal webpage in a
> browser, but handle the entire transaction from the application itself
> with some third party integration like PayU. If we could integrate one
> or more such payment services/e-wallets with the application and
> handle the paments it would be great.

Do you know about the kde-finance-apps (developer) group? Maybe your 
application is something that fits in that area as well. See https://
community.kde.org/Alkimia for some ideas what is/can become part of a common 
code base.

Some of the functions you are looking for have already been developed as part 
of other applications (e.g. KMyMoney).


> >> Until then we can just maintain a
> >> transaction record indicating that members A and B have settled up. We
> >> were also considering developing a cryptocurrency (we could call it
> >> KCoin or something) that would serve as a means of payment. Opinions
> >> are welcome in this particular segment as possibilities can be immense.
> > 
> > There are 1432 cryptocurrencies around, why would you do yet another one?
> > 
> >> As for maintaining the ledgers, we wanted to implement it using
> >> blockchain, but again, I am not sure if it can be done in KDE, or if
> >> we have some libraries that support blockchain implementation, etc.
> > 
> > What do you exactly mean by "it can be done in KDE"?
> 
> Just wanted to know if the KDE frameworks/libraries currently support
> blockchain implementation, or we will need to develop such libraries
> first.
> This is not a top priority in my opinion right now. We can go ahead
> with a normal design and maintain a centralized database in the KDE
> servers. Once we have a working prototype we can come back and try to
> use blockchain in the app.
> 
> >> An application like this comes in handy when a group of people need to
> >> manage their regular expenses, and we thought it might be a good idea
> >> to have something similar in KDE. The target audience for this will be
> >> college groups, work groups, school groups, etc whoever is entitled to
> >> shared expenditure. We would love to get your feedback, mainly on the
> >> feasibility of the features mentioned above.
> > 
> > Sure those applications make sense as shown by the millions of free as in
> > beer version of them you can find in the mobile appstores, having a Free
> > one totally makes sense.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> >   Albert
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Sayan
> 
> Regards,
> Rahul

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Thomas Baumgart

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