ktouch/next ready for merge

Ben Cooksley bcooksley at kde.org
Tue Oct 23 19:12:45 UTC 2012


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Sebastian Gottfried
<sebastiangottfried at web.de> wrote:
> Hi Laszlo,

Hi,

>
>> > Not to mention, KDE 4.10 would be the carry of the previous version
>> > for Windows. People would come to report issues and so forth since
>> > that is the official Windows version then for KDE 4.10. If all the
>> > responsibilities are put towards the distributors, they can achieve
>> > the same in the end, but people will still come to report issues about
>> > KDE 4.10 KDE Edu, KTouch because that would be KTouch 4.10 for
>> > Windows.
> It's  KTouch Version v1.7.1 the reports will be reported against. And most of
> them I'm going to be able to close as fixed in v2.0. But I don't expect a
> flood of the new bugs against the old version in the light of three new bugs
> in the year 2012 at all for KTouch.

May I suggest instead that the new version simply offers a
configuration option or other method of selecting the desired keyboard
layout on non-X11 systems while keeping auto-detection on X11?

>
>>
>> Another thing to consider is that, at this point we do not know which
>> KTouch version will be better in the future for cross-platform. You
>> may disappear at some point for a valid reason, and someone picks up
>> the 4.9 version, and extend that, then that will be the official
>> version, I guess.
> Very true. Still I now which version is better in general. By far. Someone may
> use that criteria for determining what should be the official version, I hope.
>
> That anyone would continue on working on the old version I think is rather
> unlikely. I didn't happen in two years before I did show up and not in the six
> months I've developed on the new version in public. Why should it happen now,
> with the new version there?  And of now I'm still around and I'm at least not
> planning to disappear.  Porting it to Windows isn't impossible, just time
> doesn't permit to do so for KDE 4.10.
>
> I've think the discussion should factor more arguments than availability on
> all platforms. For example all the wishes and bugs for KTouch in Bugzilla this
> version would fix when merged. I haven't closed any issues yet, because of the
> uncertainty when my version will be released, but there a lot them.
>
>>
>> Making the 4.9.X-{windows,linux} branching may be a bit duplicated as
>> well and would be different than for the rest. Fwiw, khangman linux
>> and harmattan are also different, and do not share much. They could be
>> different branches, but it was simpler to distribute, and it did not
>> become a harm either. As for Harmattan, I was not even lucky to detect
>> the platform as it is possible for Windows with cmake.
>
> There is one big difference: all your distributions are maintained and up to
> date. Basically they are different implementations of the same application for
> various platforms. And they have common grounds: the shared engine/ folder
> and the themes data. Those shared artifacts make it really advisable too put
> everything under in one tree from a maintenance point of view.
>
> On the contrary for KTouch this would mean that I would create new top-level
> folder "old" or "non-X11" with the complete KDE 4.9 KTouch tree under it and
> and some CMake magic to use that on non X11 platforms. I'm not totally against
> it but I still not totally convinced of the benefits. It would make the life
> of the KDE Windows installer team a bit easier, but that's all I can see for
> now.  The contents of that folder would be as still unmaintained as before the
> branch. At least as long no one steps up and maintains it what I don't see
> happening. I'm really more than busy with making the new version as good as
> possible. And the end user still would get the old version on Windows,
> obviously.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sebastian
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Regards,
Ben


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