FeetWetCoding: Trying to make learning C++ a little more fun!

[Robert Holder]

replies to three messages below:

On 8/23/2012 11:50 AM, Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> Robert,
>
> There's no need to thank me on that, I want an easy way to teach c++
> to students for a long time too.
> Since I'm also a programmer of a 'learn-how-to-program' ( together
> with Andreas and Wagner, well... actually Andreas is doing so much
> more than me right now. =p ). what do you think of a Skype meeting
> while I try to use your app to do stuff?  - Me ( and whoever from
> kde-edu that wanna join ) and WetFeet team?
>
> Tomaz

Yes, we can do Skype.  Can we do a Google Plus "hangout"?  This is g+ 
video chat, which includes screen-sharing  :-)  or does skype also 
include screen-sharing?  Screen-sharing would be a big help.

But sure, we're happy to get together if you have time and interest.  
All we need is some advance notice.  I am home all day, Janice works 
M-F, and we are in Mountain Time in the USA.  We will try to be 
available at your convenience, around your schedule.  If you have 
questions about the fwclib internal architecture, Janice will need to be 
there to answer that.  If it is just to help you get started on the 
exercises, she doesn't need to be here, and I can do that, which means 
pretty much any time convenient to you between 7am and 10pm will work.

On 8/23/2012 11:56 AM, Aleix Pol wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I don't know much about QtCreator, but if you were interested in
> integrating it to KDevelop I might be able to help. :)
>
> Cheers!
> Aleix
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We haven't tried KDevelop, but we can look at it, thank you for the 
offer!  We are pretty comfortable with Qt Creator at this point, and it 
comes with the Qt SDK.  That is practically a one-click install, which 
we have screenshots of, and yet even then we had people have trouble 
with it.  I will talk to Janice and we will look at KDevelop though.

On 8/23/2012 4:12 PM, Marco Calignano wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> I was following the convesation and I think that the best move for you 
> is really to open a developer account for you and your wife in KDE.
> And move your code to the the Kde git server. Maybe first on a scratch 
> project and then maybe in KDE-Edu playgroud.
> Like that we can easely look at the code, you can get suggestions on 
> how to improve your code and you can get people involved that maybe 
> can spend
> more time coding that you do.
> Come and join us I am sure you won't regret it.
>
> Cheers
> Marco

We will definitely have to consider that.  To be honest, we are at the 
point where we had decided to just abandon the project, and I thought, 
"before I just walk away from it completely, I should make a few efforts 
to try to see if there is any interest in it anywhere."

Janice and I will talk more about this, I think really what we need to 
figure out is how much time we are willing to devote to it. Janice is 
pointing out to me that we have not yet established to ourselves whether 
our approach is really helpful and correct for beginning C++ 
programmers, either in it's current form, as a part of KDE, or 
whatever.  Until we believe it is actually helpful, we don't see the 
point in investing more work in it.  We can't know if it is helpful 
until a beginner or a teacher works the exercises, and up to now we 
haven't been able to make that happen.  We honestly don't know if it is 
actually a good approach, and that is not false humility.  It may be the 
wrong approach, we just don't know.

We can't tell you what it means to us that you guys have responded at 
all.  The brick wall we have faced for months trying to talk to people 
about FeetWetCoding has been... well, it was demoralizing enough that we 
quit working on it five months ago!  lol  It has basically been like 
trying to show a dog a card trick:  no response.  :-)  So thank you for 
your time and attention!

Regards,
Robert