[kde-edu]: R: Re: chemistry

TRINGALINVENT at libero.it TRINGALINVENT at libero.it
Sun May 23 19:36:20 CEST 2010

Thank you for the answer.  In answer to the licensing of ICSC, they are
a public domain project developed by the European Union and the US 
govern. The official site is http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ipcs/icstart.html
The international version (English) has a search engine at the address
It would be quite simple to do: if the cards are all stored in a folder (in 
text format)
the program has simply to implement a search engine like Strigi to search into 
the files.
I mean, it could use Strigi as backend, so it's not necessary to rewrite the 
and the Kalzium tool would be a frontend of Strigi. 
I think it could be also possible to integrate the web search engine into 
but it will need that the user is connected to internet when doing the 
and it's not always possible.

Luca Tringali

>----Messaggio originale----
>Da: marcus at cryos.org
>Data: 23/05/2010 18.22
>A: <kde-edu at mail.kde.org>, <kde-edu at kde.org>, "TRINGALINVENT at libero.it"
<TRINGALINVENT at libero.it>
>Ogg: Re: [kde-edu]: chemistry
>On Sunday 23 May 2010 12:12:07 TRINGALINVENT at libero.it wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> I'm a student of chemistry at the university (Trieste, Italy) and I have
>> three
>> ideas for kde-edu.
>> First: Kalzium is a wonderful program, but it could be better if it would
>> be integrated with the ICSC database.  Simply add a tool to search a
>> molecule by name and display the international chemical safety card that
>> contains all the mainly needed informations. The ICSC is a text, so it
>> would not take very much
>> disk space.
>That is a nice idea, and we should look into how easy that would be to do. 
>you happen to know what the licensing on the data is? This is often the 
>biggest barrier to inclusion.
>> Second: Avogadro is a program I use very frequently, expecially for organic
>> chemistry,  but it isn't part of kde-edu... why? It uses Qt and KDElibs. I
>> think that the developers would be happy to include the program in kde-edu
>> suite: it is not already well known.
>Great to hear from a satisfied Avogadro user. Avogadro is a library used by 
>Kalzium in the molecular editor. In KDE 4.5 the system Avogadro library will 
>be used directly by Kalzium (before it was a snapshot). I have worked in 
>the Avogadro and Kalzium communities since 2007.
>I have been working on a possible addition to KDE Edu, using Avogadro to 
>a standalone KDE editor exposing many of the features of Avogadro. Avogadro 
>itself will likely always be a Qt application, although I have looked into 
>optionally compiling it against kdelibs in the past. I think this is the 
>minimum that would be required for inclusion in a KDE module.
>> Third: I, with a professor of analitic chemistry, are writing a program to
>> work with chemical equilibria and titrations (drawing titration curves both
>> teorical both experimental and finding points of equivalence). If you want
>> I can send it to you when it's completed (about at the end of June).
>I would certainly be interested in seeing your work when you are ready to 
>share it.

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