[kde-edu]: On teachers contributing content Was: KEduca resurrection (possible GSoC project)

Tomaz Canabrava tcanabrava at kde.org
Thu Apr 22 15:12:28 CEST 2010 

brazil is UTC - 3, not so far. =)


On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org> wrote:

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> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Frederik Gladhorn <gladhorn at kde.org>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I'm happy to hear that KEduca is progressing :)
>> About the meeting: I'd like to join in. I will also try to invite a german
>> teacher who has been helping me with Parley (he uses it at his school).
>>
>> The meeting should be on IRC (freenode.net). Most of us hang out there
>> anyway
>> (#kde-edu is the channel though we can create a new channel for the
>> meeting to
>> avoid being disturbed).
>>
> +1
>
>
>>
>> I don't have much time in the near future due to traveling. How would the
>> first
>> May weekend sound? I would propose Sat/Sun May 1st or 2nd.
>> Time zone wise we need something to fit Europe and Brazil as far as I
>> understand.
>>
> I'm not sure where I'll be that weekend, we can do it late-ish on sunday
> maybe? Brazil is -6 or so from europe, afaik.
>
> Thanks!
> Aleix
>
>
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Frederik
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday 20 April 2010 02:11:26 Duda Nogueira wrote:
>> > I am At GMT-3
>> >
>> > and you?
>> >
>> > do you have any jabber / gtalk?
>> >
>> > dudanogueira at jabber-br.org
>> >
>> > Duda Nogueira
>> > Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
>> > www.dudanogueira.com.br
>> >
>> > Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org> wrote:
>> > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Duda Nogueira <
>> dudanogueira at gmail.com>
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >> I am also mostly available!
>> > >>
>> > >> Just point a date and time, and I'll be there!
>> > >>
>> > >> :)
>> > >>
>> > >> Duda Nogueira
>> > >> Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
>> > >> www.dudanogueira.com.br
>> > >>
>> > >> Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org> wrote:
>> > >> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Duda Nogueira
>> > >> > <dudanogueira at gmail.com>
>> > >> >
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >> Anne,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Amanda told me about Akademy 2010, and when I saw the main topics
>> > >> >> (specially the "Connecting Our World: Social Desktop"), I thought
>> > >> >> that this new KEduca ideas would fit perfectly on a paper to be
>> > >> >> presented.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> So I sent this paper to: akademy-talks at kde.org
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Name: José Eduardo Campos Nogueira, aka "Duda Nogueira"
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Talk Title: A Social and clouded new approach to KDE-Edu
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Abstract:
>> > >> >> As we go towards on the usage of open source in educational
>> projects
>> > >> >> with huge deployments, we need to not only provide good
>> educational
>> > >> >> softwares, but ways to deliver content among software. A new,
>> > >> >> revamped KEduca looks like the perfect application to provide a
>> > >> >> platform, that will accomplish this goal, together with a remote
>> > >> >> portal/repository, where users/teachers can share or improve
>> shared
>> > >> >> classes.
>> > >> >> Time needed: 30 minutes talk
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> About me
>> > >> >> When I first used open source software, it was most about servers.
>> > >> >> Soon, I got to use as my desktop. After this, I saw the
>> possibility
>> > >> >> to use it for educational purposes. I always liked the idea of
>> > >> >> education + computers. Unfortunately, I couldn't always work
>> > >> >> directly with open source, and web development took place for a
>> few
>> > >> >> years in my career. Right now I work where I always wanted: a
>> small
>> > >> >> yet innovative Linux Based company (Metasys Linux), aimed to
>> deliver
>> > >> >> Educational Systems to government projects with about 50.000
>> > >> >> delivered desktops (netbooks and desktops), and about 200.000 to
>> > >> >> deliver by the end of this year. All of them with KDE.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> References
>> > >> >> As an Open Source activist, I went to some nice events in Brazil:
>> > >> >> FISL, Latinoware and other local events. The last event was
>> > >> >> Latinoware, Where I got to know Anne Marie, Sandro Andrade, Tomaz
>> > >> >> Canabrava, Adrian de Groot, KDHelio Castro and others, just to
>> name a
>> > >> >> few. After that, I decided to work closely with KDE-EDU crew.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Duda Nogueira
>> > >> >> Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
>> > >> >> www.dudanogueira.com.br
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> <annemarie.mahfouf at free.fr> wrote:
>> > >> >> > Yes it would be great to have an IRC meeting on this so we could
>> > >> >> > refine
>> > >> >> > this
>> > >> >> > topic at the Edu meeting.
>> > >> >> > Aleix, any date? a doodle page?
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Best regards,
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Anne-Marie
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > On Saturday 17 April 2010 14:08:48 Duda Nogueira wrote:
>> > >> >> >> Hi Alex!
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> That's a great idea. Deliver content among the software is
>> > >> >> >> definetly the way to Go!
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> However, I don't think that relying on a web content such as
>> > >> >> >> portal do
>> > >> >> >> professor is a good idea, not only for the non semantic content
>> as
>> > >> >> >> you
>> > >> >> >> pointed, but mainly for the availability and stability of the
>> > >> >> >> whole portal.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Instead of putting the content into the software, a better
>> aproach
>> > >> >> >> should be the opposite: put the software into the content.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> That's why I think Keduca can be a key software to do this job,
>> > >> >> >> integrating content with software.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Picture the usage: Anne wants to teach her students about
>> calcium/
>> > >> >> >> milk. She will create a Keduca file, with richmedia (audio,
>> video,
>> > >> >> >> images, flash, weblinks) grabed from a Creative Commons source,
>> > >> >> >> and can also link his Keduca class with a specific application,
>> > >> >> >> even linking a specific word, such as "calcium" to a command,
>> > >> >> >> like "kalzium
>> > >> >> >> calcium"
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Anne can also share her class, created on her language by
>> clicking
>> > >> >> >> on
>> > >> >> >> a button "share", and making it available on a central
>> repository.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Later, other teacher, named Marie ;) will be able to download
>> the
>> > >> >> >> shared Keduca class, improve it, use it, and share it back on
>> the
>> > >> >> >> central repository.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> It can be either a crazy idea or a good vision...
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Just a quick correction: Syst, the company I work for is the
>> same
>> > >> >> >> as Metasys, but we prefer to be called as Metasy, for branding
>> > >> >> >> matters
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> :)
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> What do you guys think about that? A meeting/brainstorm would
>> be
>> > >> >> >> great!!
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Enviado de meu iPhone
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Em 16/04/2010, às 12:13, Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org>
>> escreveu:
>> > >> >> >> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Duda Nogueira
>> > >> >> >> > <dudanogueira at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >> > Hi there!
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > As Mauricio said, we (Syst) have total interest in keeping a
>> > >> >> >> > close contact with KDE and KDE-EDU, helping on improvements
>> not
>> > >> >> >> > only in KEduca app, but the whole Educational stack in open
>> > >> >> >> > source, whenever
>> > >> >> >> > possible.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > It's important to note that our distro is being shipped in
>> > >> >> >> > thousands
>> > >> >> >> > of Intel Classmates. Here in Brazil we have more then 13.000
>> > >> >> >> > already
>> > >> >> >> > delivered, and more 150.000 to go, as the UCA (One Laptop per
>> > >> >> >> > Child)
>> > >> >> >> > Project from Brazil's government is being launched.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > On the desktop side, we have about 4.000 thousand schools
>> here
>> > >> >> >> > in our
>> > >> >> >> > state, Minas Gerais, with approximately 15 computers each,
>> all
>> > >> >> >> > of them
>> > >> >> >> > with KDE on in it.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > There is also another dekstop project, from the Communication
>> > >> >> >> > area of
>> > >> >> >> > the government, that plans to deliver 20.000 labs, each one
>> with
>> > >> >> >> > 15
>> > >> >> >> > computers. From this total, 5.000 was already delivered, and
>> the
>> > >> >> >> > rest
>> > >> >> >> > will be delivered on the following months.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > With KEduca, we want to share/contribute with code, expertise
>> > >> >> >> > and help
>> > >> >> >> > on stimulating teachers and institutions to develop and share
>> > >> >> >> > new tests/KEduca files.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > The Educational Area of our Government has an awesome portal
>> > >> >> >> > (http://portaldoprofessor.mec.gov.br/recursos.html) with
>> tons of
>> > >> >> >> > contents (66G so far), and we think it'll be a good area to
>> > >> >> >> > share the
>> > >> >> >> > pt-br KEduca tests.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > I'll be looking closely for the KEduca-new development, as I
>> > >> >> >> > truly believe this will a win-win situation, and a very
>> > >> >> >> > interesting project!
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > Best Regards!
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > Duda Nogueira
>> > >> >> >> > Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
>> > >> >> >> > www.dudanogueira.com.br
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > <annemarie.mahfouf at free.fr> wrote:
>> > >> >> >> > > fabulous news and indeed making it possible to exchange
>> data
>> > >> >> >> > > is the
>> > >> >> >> > > way to go!
>> > >> >> >> > > Thanks a
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> > >> >> >> > kde-edu mailing list
>> > >> >> >> > kde-edu at mail.kde.org
>> > >> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > Hi!!
>> > >> >> >> > I'm really happy to read such a mail. I think that such
>> > >> >> >> > communication between teachers and developers is definitely
>> the
>> > >> >> >> > way
>> > >> >> >> > to go. If you are interested on working with us, we should
>> > >> >> >> > create some IRC meeting together (if it's not possible to
>> meet
>> > >> >> >> > live) to think of some way we can do that.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > For starters, even if the website has an amazing amount of
>> > >> >> >> > information (I mean it, there's stuff in catalan, awesome :))
>> I
>> > >> >> >> > don't think there's much we can do with that because data is
>> not
>> > >> >> >> > formatted in any semantic way but we should try to get to
>> that.
>> > >> >> >> > A good start would be to make it possible to integrate some
>> > >> >> >> > information into kalzium, they already have wikipedia
>> > >> >> >> > information, why not information from "portal do professor"?
>> To
>> > >> >> >> > do so we should make it possible to be able to structure the
>> > >> >> >> > data a little and to create some RPC interface I guess, do
>> you
>> > >> >> >> > think that would be possible?
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > I think it would be great if we could provide kalgebra
>> modules
>> > >> >> >> > and maybe cantor sheets for mathematical and science
>> > >> >> >> > information in general. I think this would be far better than
>> > >> >> >> > the current just-html
>> > >> >> >> > approach. This would bring up new needs in hosting
>> applications
>> > >> >> >> > but
>> > >> >> >> > that's why we are here, isn't it?
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > Well, looking forward to hearing from you. And remember that
>> > >> >> >> > we're here for good :D
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > Aleix (KAlgebra maintainer)
>> > >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> > >> >> >> > kde-edu at mail.kde.org
>> > >> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> > >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>> > >> >>
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>> > >> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Yes, the thing is that the kde edu team we're holding a meeting in
>> the
>> > >> > end
>> > >> > of May and it would be great to start planning such stuff.
>> > >> > I also sent a talk proposal for KDE Edu for this year's akademy,
>> we'll
>> > >> > see
>> > >> > how it goes. So it would be nice to share some knowledge and
>> > >> > intentions before we get to Tampere :)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On the IRC meeting, I'd let the brazilian people to choose some
>> > >> > timeframe
>> > >> > since I'm mostly available. Who would be interested on joining as
>> > >> > well?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Aleix
>> > >> >
>> > >> > _______________________________________________
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>> > >> > kde-edu at mail.kde.org
>> > >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>> > >>
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>> > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>> > >
>> > > What's your timezone?
>> > >
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