brazil is UTC - 3, not so far. =)<div><br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Aleix Pol <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org">aleixpol@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Frederik Gladhorn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gladhorn@kde.org" target="_blank">gladhorn@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
Hi,<br>
I'm happy to hear that KEduca is progressing :)<br>
About the meeting: I'd like to join in. I will also try to invite a german<br>
teacher who has been helping me with Parley (he uses it at his school).<br>
<br>
The meeting should be on IRC (<a href="http://freenode.net" target="_blank">freenode.net</a>). Most of us hang out there anyway<br>
(#kde-edu is the channel though we can create a new channel for the meeting to<br>
avoid being disturbed).<br></blockquote></div><div>+1<br> <br></div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
I don't have much time in the near future due to traveling. How would the first<br>
May weekend sound? I would propose Sat/Sun May 1st or 2nd.<br>
Time zone wise we need something to fit Europe and Brazil as far as I<br>
understand.<br></blockquote></div><div>I'm not sure where I'll be that weekend, we can do it late-ish on sunday maybe? Brazil is -6 or so from europe, afaik.<br><br>Thanks!<br><font color="#888888">Aleix<br> </font></div>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Greetings,<br>
<font color="#888888">Frederik<br>
</font><div><div></div><div><br>
<br>
<br>
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 02:11:26 Duda Nogueira wrote:<br>
> I am At GMT-3<br>
><br>
> and you?<br>
><br>
> do you have any jabber / gtalk?<br>
><br>
> <a href="mailto:dudanogueira@jabber-br.org" target="_blank">dudanogueira@jabber-br.org</a><br>
><br>
> Duda Nogueira<br>
> Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia<br>
> <a href="http://www.dudanogueira.com.br" target="_blank">www.dudanogueira.com.br</a><br>
><br>
> Celular: +55 31 9985-1271<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Aleix Pol <<a href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org" target="_blank">aleixpol@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Duda Nogueira <<a href="mailto:dudanogueira@gmail.com" target="_blank">dudanogueira@gmail.com</a>><br>
> ><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> >> I am also mostly available!<br>
> >><br>
> >> Just point a date and time, and I'll be there!<br>
> >><br>
> >> :)<br>
> >><br>
> >> Duda Nogueira<br>
> >> Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia<br>
> >> <a href="http://www.dudanogueira.com.br" target="_blank">www.dudanogueira.com.br</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> Celular: +55 31 9985-1271<br>
> >><br>
> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Aleix Pol <<a href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org" target="_blank">aleixpol@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Duda Nogueira<br>
> >> > <<a href="mailto:dudanogueira@gmail.com" target="_blank">dudanogueira@gmail.com</a>><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > wrote:<br>
> >> >> Anne,<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Amanda told me about Akademy 2010, and when I saw the main topics<br>
> >> >> (specially the "Connecting Our World: Social Desktop"), I thought<br>
> >> >> that this new KEduca ideas would fit perfectly on a paper to be<br>
> >> >> presented.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> So I sent this paper to: <a href="mailto:akademy-talks@kde.org" target="_blank">akademy-talks@kde.org</a><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Name: José Eduardo Campos Nogueira, aka "Duda Nogueira"<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Talk Title: A Social and clouded new approach to KDE-Edu<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Abstract:<br>
> >> >> As we go towards on the usage of open source in educational projects<br>
> >> >> with huge deployments, we need to not only provide good educational<br>
> >> >> softwares, but ways to deliver content among software. A new,<br>
> >> >> revamped KEduca looks like the perfect application to provide a<br>
> >> >> platform, that will accomplish this goal, together with a remote<br>
> >> >> portal/repository, where users/teachers can share or improve shared<br>
> >> >> classes.<br>
> >> >> Time needed: 30 minutes talk<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> About me<br>
> >> >> When I first used open source software, it was most about servers.<br>
> >> >> Soon, I got to use as my desktop. After this, I saw the possibility<br>
> >> >> to use it for educational purposes. I always liked the idea of<br>
> >> >> education + computers. Unfortunately, I couldn't always work<br>
> >> >> directly with open source, and web development took place for a few<br>
> >> >> years in my career. Right now I work where I always wanted: a small<br>
> >> >> yet innovative Linux Based company (Metasys Linux), aimed to deliver<br>
> >> >> Educational Systems to government projects with about 50.000<br>
> >> >> delivered desktops (netbooks and desktops), and about 200.000 to<br>
> >> >> deliver by the end of this year. All of them with KDE.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> References<br>
> >> >> As an Open Source activist, I went to some nice events in Brazil:<br>
> >> >> FISL, Latinoware and other local events. The last event was<br>
> >> >> Latinoware, Where I got to know Anne Marie, Sandro Andrade, Tomaz<br>
> >> >> Canabrava, Adrian de Groot, KDHelio Castro and others, just to name a<br>
> >> >> few. After that, I decided to work closely with KDE-EDU crew.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Duda Nogueira<br>
> >> >> Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia<br>
> >> >> <a href="http://www.dudanogueira.com.br" target="_blank">www.dudanogueira.com.br</a><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Celular: +55 31 9985-1271<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> <<a href="mailto:annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr" target="_blank">annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> >> > Yes it would be great to have an IRC meeting on this so we could<br>
> >> >> > refine<br>
> >> >> > this<br>
> >> >> > topic at the Edu meeting.<br>
> >> >> > Aleix, any date? a doodle page?<br>
> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> > Best regards,<br>
> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> > Anne-Marie<br>
> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> > On Saturday 17 April 2010 14:08:48 Duda Nogueira wrote:<br>
> >> >> >> Hi Alex!<br>
> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> That's a great idea. Deliver content among the software is<br>
> >> >> >> definetly the way to Go!<br>
> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> However, I don't think that relying on a web content such as<br>
> >> >> >> portal do<br>
> >> >> >> professor is a good idea, not only for the non semantic content as<br>
> >> >> >> you<br>
> >> >> >> pointed, but mainly for the availability and stability of the<br>
> >> >> >> whole portal.<br>
> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> Instead of putting the content into the software, a better aproach<br>
> >> >> >> should be the opposite: put the software into the content.<br>
> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> That's why I think Keduca can be a key software to do this job,<br>
> >> >> >> integrating content with software.<br>
> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> Picture the usage: Anne wants to teach her students about calcium/<br>
> >> >> >> milk. She will create a Keduca file, with richmedia (audio, video,<br>
> >> >> >> images, flash, weblinks) grabed from a Creative Commons source,<br>
> >> >> >> and can also link his Keduca class with a specific application,<br>
> >> >> >> even linking a specific word, such as "calcium" to a command,<br>
> >> >> >> like "kalzium<br>
> >> >> >> calcium"<br>
> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> Anne can also share her class, created on her language by clicking<br>
> >> >> >> on<br>
> >> >> >> a button "share", and making it available on a central repository.<br>
> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> Later, other teacher, named Marie ;) will be able to download the<br>
> >> >> >> shared Keduca class, improve it, use it, and share it back on the<br>
> >> >> >> central repository.<br>
> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> It can be either a crazy idea or a good vision...<br>
> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> Just a quick correction: Syst, the company I work for is the same<br>
> >> >> >> as Metasys, but we prefer to be called as Metasy, for branding<br>
> >> >> >> matters<br>
> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> :)<br>
> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> What do you guys think about that? A meeting/brainstorm would be<br>
> >> >> >> great!!<br>
> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> Enviado de meu iPhone<br>
> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> Em 16/04/2010, às 12:13, Aleix Pol <<a href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org" target="_blank">aleixpol@kde.org</a>> escreveu:<br>
> >> >> >> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Duda Nogueira<br>
> >> >> >> > <<a href="mailto:dudanogueira@gmail.com" target="_blank">dudanogueira@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> >> >> > Hi there!<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > As Mauricio said, we (Syst) have total interest in keeping a<br>
> >> >> >> > close contact with KDE and KDE-EDU, helping on improvements not<br>
> >> >> >> > only in KEduca app, but the whole Educational stack in open<br>
> >> >> >> > source, whenever<br>
> >> >> >> > possible.<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > It's important to note that our distro is being shipped in<br>
> >> >> >> > thousands<br>
> >> >> >> > of Intel Classmates. Here in Brazil we have more then 13.000<br>
> >> >> >> > already<br>
> >> >> >> > delivered, and more 150.000 to go, as the UCA (One Laptop per<br>
> >> >> >> > Child)<br>
> >> >> >> > Project from Brazil's government is being launched.<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > On the desktop side, we have about 4.000 thousand schools here<br>
> >> >> >> > in our<br>
> >> >> >> > state, Minas Gerais, with approximately 15 computers each, all<br>
> >> >> >> > of them<br>
> >> >> >> > with KDE on in it.<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > There is also another dekstop project, from the Communication<br>
> >> >> >> > area of<br>
> >> >> >> > the government, that plans to deliver 20.000 labs, each one with<br>
> >> >> >> > 15<br>
> >> >> >> > computers. From this total, 5.000 was already delivered, and the<br>
> >> >> >> > rest<br>
> >> >> >> > will be delivered on the following months.<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > With KEduca, we want to share/contribute with code, expertise<br>
> >> >> >> > and help<br>
> >> >> >> > on stimulating teachers and institutions to develop and share<br>
> >> >> >> > new tests/KEduca files.<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > The Educational Area of our Government has an awesome portal<br>
> >> >> >> > (<a href="http://portaldoprofessor.mec.gov.br/recursos.html" target="_blank">http://portaldoprofessor.mec.gov.br/recursos.html</a>) with tons of<br>
> >> >> >> > contents (66G so far), and we think it'll be a good area to<br>
> >> >> >> > share the<br>
> >> >> >> > pt-br KEduca tests.<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > I'll be looking closely for the KEduca-new development, as I<br>
> >> >> >> > truly believe this will a win-win situation, and a very<br>
> >> >> >> > interesting project!<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > Best Regards!<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > Duda Nogueira<br>
> >> >> >> > Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia<br>
> >> >> >> > <a href="http://www.dudanogueira.com.br" target="_blank">www.dudanogueira.com.br</a><br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > Celular: +55 31 9985-1271<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > <<a href="mailto:annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr" target="_blank">annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> >> >> > > fabulous news and indeed making it possible to exchange data<br>
> >> >> >> > > is the<br>
> >> >> >> > > way to go!<br>
> >> >> >> > > Thanks a<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________<br>
> >> >> >> > kde-edu mailing list<br>
> >> >> >> > <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
> >> >> >> > <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > Hi!!<br>
> >> >> >> > I'm really happy to read such a mail. I think that such<br>
> >> >> >> > communication between teachers and developers is definitely the<br>
> >> >> >> > way<br>
> >> >> >> > to go. If you are interested on working with us, we should<br>
> >> >> >> > create some IRC meeting together (if it's not possible to meet<br>
> >> >> >> > live) to think of some way we can do that.<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > For starters, even if the website has an amazing amount of<br>
> >> >> >> > information (I mean it, there's stuff in catalan, awesome :)) I<br>
> >> >> >> > don't think there's much we can do with that because data is not<br>
> >> >> >> > formatted in any semantic way but we should try to get to that.<br>
> >> >> >> > A good start would be to make it possible to integrate some<br>
> >> >> >> > information into kalzium, they already have wikipedia<br>
> >> >> >> > information, why not information from "portal do professor"? To<br>
> >> >> >> > do so we should make it possible to be able to structure the<br>
> >> >> >> > data a little and to create some RPC interface I guess, do you<br>
> >> >> >> > think that would be possible?<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > I think it would be great if we could provide kalgebra modules<br>
> >> >> >> > and maybe cantor sheets for mathematical and science<br>
> >> >> >> > information in general. I think this would be far better than<br>
> >> >> >> > the current just-html<br>
> >> >> >> > approach. This would bring up new needs in hosting applications<br>
> >> >> >> > but<br>
> >> >> >> > that's why we are here, isn't it?<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > Well, looking forward to hearing from you. And remember that<br>
> >> >> >> > we're here for good :D<br>
> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> > Aleix (KAlgebra maintainer)<br>
> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________<br>
> >> >> >> > kde-edu mailing list<br>
> >> >> >> > <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
> >> >> >> > <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br>
> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> > _______________________________________________<br>
> >> >> > kde-edu mailing list<br>
> >> >> > <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
> >> >> > <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> _______________________________________________<br>
> >> >> kde-edu mailing list<br>
> >> >> <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
> >> >> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Yes, the thing is that the kde edu team we're holding a meeting in the<br>
> >> > end<br>
> >> > of May and it would be great to start planning such stuff.<br>
> >> > I also sent a talk proposal for KDE Edu for this year's akademy, we'll<br>
> >> > see<br>
> >> > how it goes. So it would be nice to share some knowledge and<br>
> >> > intentions before we get to Tampere :)<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > On the IRC meeting, I'd let the brazilian people to choose some<br>
> >> > timeframe<br>
> >> > since I'm mostly available. Who would be interested on joining as<br>
> >> > well?<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Aleix<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > _______________________________________________<br>
> >> > kde-edu mailing list<br>
> >> > <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
> >> > <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> _______________________________________________<br>
> >> kde-edu mailing list<br>
> >> <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
> >> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br>
> ><br>
> > What's your timezone?<br>
> ><br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > kde-edu mailing list<br>
> > <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
> > <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> kde-edu mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br>
</div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
kde-edu mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br>
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<br>_______________________________________________<br>
kde-edu mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br>
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