[kde-edu]: On teachers contributing content Was: KEduca resurrection (possible GSoC project)

Tue Apr 20 02:11:26 CEST 2010

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Duda Nogueira
Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
www.dudanogueira.com.br

Celular: +55 31 9985-1271

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Duda Nogueira <dudanogueira at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I am also mostly available!
>>
>> Just point a date and time, and I'll be there!
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Duda Nogueira
>> Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
>> www.dudanogueira.com.br
>>
>> Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Duda Nogueira <dudanogueira at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Anne,
>> >>
>> >> Amanda told me about Akademy 2010, and when I saw the main topics
>> >> (specially the "Connecting Our World: Social Desktop"), I thought that
>> >> this new KEduca ideas would fit perfectly on a paper to be presented.
>> >>
>> >> So I sent this paper to: akademy-talks at kde.org
>> >>
>> >> Name: José Eduardo Campos Nogueira, aka "Duda Nogueira"
>> >>
>> >> Talk Title: A Social and clouded new approach to KDE-Edu
>> >>
>> >> Abstract:
>> >> As we go towards on the usage of open source in educational projects
>> >> with huge deployments, we need to not only provide good educational
>> >> softwares, but ways to deliver content among software. A new, revamped
>> >> KEduca looks like the perfect application to provide a platform, that
>> >> will accomplish this goal, together with a remote portal/repository,
>> >> where users/teachers can share or improve shared classes.
>> >> Time needed: 30 minutes talk
>> >>
>> >> About me
>> >> When I first used open source software, it was most about servers.
>> >> Soon, I got to use as my desktop. After this, I saw the possibility to
>> >> use it for educational purposes. I always liked the idea of education
>> >> + computers. Unfortunately, I couldn't always work directly with open
>> >> source, and web development took place for a few years in my career.
>> >> Right now I work where I always wanted: a small yet innovative Linux
>> >> Based company (Metasys Linux), aimed to deliver Educational Systems to
>> >> government projects with about 50.000 delivered desktops (netbooks and
>> >> desktops), and about 200.000 to deliver by the end of this year. All
>> >> of them with KDE.
>> >>
>> >> References
>> >> As an Open Source activist, I went to some nice events in Brazil:
>> >> FISL, Latinoware and other local events. The last event was
>> >> Latinoware, Where I got to know Anne Marie, Sandro Andrade, Tomaz
>> >> Canabrava, Adrian de Groot, KDHelio Castro and others, just to name a
>> >> few. After that, I decided to work closely with KDE-EDU crew.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Duda Nogueira
>> >> Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
>> >> www.dudanogueira.com.br
>> >>
>> >> Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf
>> >> <annemarie.mahfouf at free.fr> wrote:
>> >> > Yes it would be great to have an IRC meeting on this so we could
>> >> > refine
>> >> > this
>> >> > topic at the Edu meeting.
>> >> > Aleix, any date? a doodle page?
>> >> >
>> >> > Best regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > Anne-Marie
>> >> >
>> >> > On Saturday 17 April 2010 14:08:48 Duda Nogueira wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Alex!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That's a great idea. Deliver content among the software is definetly
>> >> >> the way to Go!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However, I don't think that relying on a web content such as portal
>> >> >> do
>> >> >> professor is a good idea, not only for the non semantic content as
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> pointed, but mainly for the availability and stability of the whole
>> >> >> portal.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Instead of putting the content into the software, a better aproach
>> >> >> should be the opposite: put the software into the content.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That's why I think Keduca can be a key software to do this job,
>> >> >> integrating content with software.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Picture the usage: Anne wants to teach her students about calcium/
>> >> >> milk. She will create a Keduca file, with richmedia (audio, video,
>> >> >> images, flash, weblinks) grabed from a Creative Commons source, and
>> >> >> can also link his Keduca class with a specific application, even
>> >> >> linking a specific word, such as "calcium" to a command, like
>> >> >> "kalzium
>> >> >> calcium"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Anne can also share her class, created on her language by clicking
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> a button "share", and making it available on a central repository.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Later, other teacher, named Marie ;) will be able to download the
>> >> >> shared Keduca class, improve it, use it, and share it back on the
>> >> >> central repository.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It can be either a crazy idea or a good vision...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Just a quick correction: Syst, the company I work for is the same as
>> >> >> Metasys, but we prefer to be called as Metasy, for branding matters
>> >> >> :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What do you guys think about that? A meeting/brainstorm would be
>> >> >> great!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Enviado de meu iPhone
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Em 16/04/2010, às 12:13, Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org> escreveu:
>> >> >> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Duda Nogueira
>> >> >> > <dudanogueira at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > Hi there!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > As Mauricio said, we (Syst) have total interest in keeping a close
>> >> >> > contact with KDE and KDE-EDU, helping on improvements not only in
>> >> >> > KEduca app, but the whole Educational stack in open source,
>> >> >> > whenever
>> >> >> > possible.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > It's important to note that our distro is being shipped in
>> >> >> > thousands
>> >> >> > of Intel Classmates. Here in Brazil we have more then 13.000
>> >> >> > already
>> >> >> > delivered, and more 150.000 to go, as the UCA (One Laptop per
>> >> >> > Child)
>> >> >> > Project from Brazil's government is being launched.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On the desktop side, we have about 4.000 thousand schools here in
>> >> >> > our
>> >> >> > state, Minas Gerais, with approximately 15 computers each, all of
>> >> >> > them
>> >> >> > with KDE on in it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > There is also another dekstop project, from the Communication area
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > the government, that plans to deliver 20.000 labs, each one with
>> >> >> > 15
>> >> >> > computers. From this total, 5.000 was already delivered, and the
>> >> >> > rest
>> >> >> > will be delivered on the following months.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > With KEduca, we want to share/contribute with code, expertise and
>> >> >> > help
>> >> >> > on stimulating teachers and institutions to develop and share new
>> >> >> > tests/KEduca files.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The Educational Area of our Government has an awesome portal
>> >> >> > (http://portaldoprofessor.mec.gov.br/recursos.html) with tons of
>> >> >> > contents (66G so far), and we think it'll be a good area to share
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > pt-br KEduca tests.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I'll be looking closely for the KEduca-new development, as I truly
>> >> >> > believe this will a win-win situation, and a very interesting
>> >> >> > project!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Best Regards!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Duda Nogueira
>> >> >> > Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
>> >> >> > www.dudanogueira.com.br
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > <annemarie.mahfouf at free.fr> wrote:
>> >> >> > > fabulous news and indeed making it possible to exchange data is
>> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> > > way to go!
>> >> >> > > Thanks a
>> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hi!!
>> >> >> > I'm really happy to read such a mail. I think that such
>> >> >> > communication between teachers and developers is definitely the
>> >> >> > way
>> >> >> > to go. If you are interested on working with us, we should create
>> >> >> > some IRC meeting together (if it's not possible to meet live) to
>> >> >> > think of some way we can do that.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > For starters, even if the website has an amazing amount of
>> >> >> > information (I mean it, there's stuff in catalan, awesome :)) I
>> >> >> > don't think there's much we can do with that because data is not
>> >> >> > formatted in any semantic way but we should try to get to that. A
>> >> >> > good start would be to make it possible to integrate some
>> >> >> > information into kalzium, they already have wikipedia information,
>> >> >> > why not information from "portal do professor"? To do so we should
>> >> >> > make it possible to be able to structure the data a little and to
>> >> >> > create some RPC interface I guess, do you think that would be
>> >> >> > possible?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I think it would be great if we could provide kalgebra modules and
>> >> >> > maybe cantor sheets for mathematical and science information in
>> >> >> > general. I think this would be far better than the current
>> >> >> > just-html
>> >> >> > approach. This would bring up new needs in hosting applications
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > that's why we are here, isn't it?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Well, looking forward to hearing from you. And remember that we're
>> >> >> > here for good :D
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Aleix (KAlgebra maintainer)
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>> > Yes, the thing is that the kde edu team we're holding a meeting in the
>> > end
>> > of May and it would be great to start planning such stuff.
>> > I also sent a talk proposal for KDE Edu for this year's akademy, we'll
>> > see
>> > how it goes. So it would be nice to share some knowledge and intentions
>> > before we get to Tampere :)
>> >
>> > On the IRC meeting, I'd let the brazilian people to choose some
>> > timeframe
>> > since I'm mostly available. Who would be interested on joining as well?
>> >
>> > Aleix
>> >
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