[kde-edu]: KEduca and Google SoC '09

Albert Astals Cid aacid at kde.org
Fri Mar 13 23:38:42 CET 2009


A Divendres, 13 de març de 2009, foo-script va escriure:
> I couldn't answer earlier. Too much to do :) Sorry for delay.
>
> Anne-Marie, Albert:
>
>  I have some ideas how to create KEduca powerful tool for CAI but most of
> it require an interference to architecture. I will wait with them until a
> proper maintainer will be found.
>
>  My ideas:
>    1.) Patterns
> As a math coach I often prepare tests in KEduca. When I prepare test of
> e.g. fractions, elements of algebra I have to type numerical values in each
> exercise. There should be a possibility to create "patterns" of exercise.
> "Pattern" would be just a set of relations used to generate the questions.
> Mention the following problem:
>
>  We want to prepare a test of adding fractions. We don't have to care a lot
> of denominator. We care of numerators to avoid complication. Both
> numerators and denominator must be integers. Let each numerator meet
> limitation: 0 < num < 20 and let common denominator is between 2 and 40 and
> (numerator1+numerator2 < 30). Using these patterns KEduca should let me
> create many exercises without an effort. Also it would make me sure that
> each student will get diverse set of exercises. Of course using patterns
> can be also used in checking (?, proving? ) the student's answers.
>
>   2.) Alternatives
> Mention the following problem:
>  We want to create a test about the country we live. We assume that student
> has to answer to 10 questions in 4 issues( 2 - language, 2 - geography, 5 -
> culture, 1 - national flag). We also have a stake of questions to each
> issue, but software should ask only randomly taken 2 questions about
> language, 2 about geo, etc...
>
>   Another ideas are more advanced and require rebuild KEduca's engine, but
> if you're interest - let me know :)
>
>  You asked me about mentor. I really don't know. Hope Math will answer my
> mail. I don't know anyone (except of you) in KDE, but hope that together
> we'll find one :) It would be pity to lost a opportunity of improving
> KEduca during SoC because of lack of mentor :/

I think we misunderstood you here, us (at least me) thought you wanted to do a 
GSoC over KEduca and now it seems to me that what you want is that someone 
does a GSoC over KEduca.

Albert

>
>  Short off-topic. On Monday I came back from CeBIT (the European greatest
> IT fair) where I have seen KEduca-similar, but commercial, product
> developed by "Link&Link Software". It's possibilities doesn't seem to be
> much greater than KEduca's, although it costs over EU 1000/single licence.
> In my opinion KEduca has an opportunity to become a one of the best
> examination software (even if we mention commerce application), but firstly
> it has to be well-known and available. Hope I will help in it.
>
>  Best
>  Adam Rakowski
>
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> > Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:13:12 +0100
> > From: Adam 'foo-script' Rakowski
> > Subject: [kde-edu]: KEduca and Google SoC '09
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> >  I wrote a mail to Matt (main KEduca developer) to ask him whether
> > there's a chance to apply KEduca in GSoC 2009. No response. I'm
> > interesting in improving this software and I have some ideas to talk them
> > over. I also wrote to Javier (KEduca founder), but there's still no
> > answer since about 2 weeks.
> >
> >  Is KDE-edu group interested in KEduca development? Hope you will answer
> > ;))
> >
> >  Best
> >  Adam Rakowski
> >
> >
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> > Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:19:34 +0100
> > From: Albert Astals Cid
> > Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: KEduca and Google SoC '09
> > To: kde-edu at kde.org
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> > A Dilluns, 9 de mar? de 2009, Adam 'foo-script' Rakowski va escriure:
> > >  I wrote a mail to Matt (main KEduca developer) to ask him whether
> > > there's a chance to apply KEduca in GSoC 2009. No response. I'm
> > > interesting in improving this software and I have some ideas to talk
> > > them over. I also wrote to Javier (KEduca founder), but there's still
> > > no answer since about 2 weeks.
> > >
> > >  Is KDE-edu group interested in KEduca development? Hope you will
> > > answer ;))
> >
> > Yes we are interested in KEduca development, what are your plans for it?
> >
> > Albert
> >
> > >  Best
> > >  Adam Rakowski
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:40:16 +0100
> > From: "Anne-Marie Mahfouf"
> > Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: KEduca and Google SoC '09
> > To: kde-edu at kde.org
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> > On Monday 09 March 2009 20:13:12 Adam 'foo-script' Rakowski wrote:
> > >  I wrote a mail to Matt (main KEduca developer) to ask him whether
> > > there's a chance to apply KEduca in GSoC 2009. No response. I'm
> > > interesting in improving this software and I have some ideas to talk
> > > them over. I also wrote to Javier (KEduca founder), but there's still
> > > no answer since about 2 weeks.
> >
> > Javier is not in KDE anymore and Matt does not seem to go anywhere with
> > KEduca. Not sure if Matt is even still involved in KDE.
> >
> > We are interested in KEduca but as long as it's a one person work it'll
> > fail in my opinion. It needs to be a group work and to include teachers
> > to assess their needs and have it tested. We already had 2 people who
> > said they'll make a new KEduca and did not succeed. Working alone without
> > a design concept validated by teachers is not the way to go.
> >
> > If Matt is not answering however I am not sure who can mentor you on that
> > topic. What is your idea about it?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Anne-Marie
> >
> >
> >
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