[kde-edu]: Packaging issues

[Harald Sitter]

On Sunday 02 November 2008 16:32:52 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> A Diumenge 02 Novembre 2008, Harald Sitter va escriure:
> > On Sunday 02 November 2008 16:08:04 Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:
> > > Hi people,
> > >
> > > I am submitting this to the mailing list as I cannot sort it out myself
> > > and it regards kvtml and maybe other distributions as well.
> > >
> > > In KDE 4, we wanted to share more of the .kvtml files and thus we
> > > install those .kvtml files in $KDEDIR/share/kvtml instead of
> > > $KDEDIR/share/khangman or $KDEDIR/share/kanagram. Thus all programs
> > > using KVTML format can use all the available files.
> > >
> > > But some distributions (debian based) then did not package KHangMan
> > > data with KHangMan, they packaged it with KAnagram (as Kanagram data
> > > also installs in $KDEDIR/share/kvtml). KHangMan crashes when there is
> > > no data as it is designed to start with a word to guess.
> > >
> > > So I'd like to see here what should be done to ensure we have a minimum
> > > set of data shipped with those apps. Every application should be
> > > shipped with the data that is in the KDE svn application folder, thsi
> > > is how we designed it. If it is not possible, should KHangMan be
> > > redesigned to accomodate no data? Should we keep this /share/kvtml
> > > folder?
> >
> > In my opinion the minimum set of data should be deployed as part of the
> > application, but as I understood it the kvtml files can be used by all
> > applications supporting them, so essentially KAnagram can work with just
> > it's own files but enhance the resources by using the ones from KHangMan,
> > so having the files inside their applications directory doesn't make much
> > sense.
> >
> > However, I think should be clear where these files belong to, so instead
> > of throwing them just inside share/kvtml using subdirectories would be a
> > good idea.
> > i.e.:
> > kvtml/khangman/...
> > kvtml/kanagram/...
> >
> > That also makes it pretty self-explaining for distributions what to do
> > with these files.
> > In addition to that at least for debian based distributions (and IIRC
> > it's the same for rpm based ones) it makes maintaining the package
> > content easier. Currently one would have to maintain manually a list of
> > files to ensure the ones belonging to KHangMan/KAnagram end up in the
> > right package, while with subdirs one could just list kvtml/khangman/*
> > goes in the khangman package and kvtml/kanagram/* in the kanagram
> > package.
> >
> > To sum that up:
> > * make the KVTML resources searched recursive (if not already)
> > * install default kvtml files to subdirectories
> > * as a result distributions can package the associated files more easily
>
> That's a really bad excuse, we install all the icons, libs, desktop files,
> and lots of other files in the same folder (one for each categfory) and
> packagers never complainted about that.

True.
Each of them also has a unique association identifier (name) where they belong 
to, don't they?

Now what is the unique association identifier of sports.kvtml? ;-)

Regards,
Harald
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