[kde-edu]: Edubuntu & kde-edu

[Albert Astals Cid]

A Dissabte 19 Maig 2007, Inge Wallin va escriure:
> On Friday 18 May 2007 19.22, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > A Divendres 18 Maig 2007, Agustin Benito va escriure:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > since Edubuntu guys told me that they were making a survey of edu
> > > contens and apps, and since no one from kde-edu was at UDS I wanted to
> > > make sure they do not forget to include or study any of kde apps. That
> > > is what I was worry about in UDS and that is why I sent the e-mail from
> > > Edubuntu list to kde-edu list. I didn't know that Anne Marie was
> > > already in Edubuntu mailing list.
> > >
> > > Edubuntu guys made me clear that having kde (I remind you mEDUXa is a
> > > kde-based distro) is not a barrier for collaborating between both
> > > projects. That point of view is what made me send the e-mail. Of course
> > > I might be wrong but I want to make clear that I have no other objetive
> > > that make kde-edu popular and spread it as much as posible.
> > >
> > > I think a direct contact with edubuntu to know what they want and their
> > > roadmap would be nice, to see if they really count with kde-edu.
> > > aKademy could be a good place for that although a simple IRC
> > > conversation is also a solution. Edubuntu is a growing project and I'm
> > > sure we can find a way of conneting each other. It would only take one
> > > or two hours of chatting.
> > >
> > > We can also do that with Guadalinex (an Ubuntu based edu distro). They
> > > have 160,000 computers in schools in Andalucía (a million students) and
> > > kde-edu is not on it. You can do the same with them
> >
> > So they are doing a sucky distribution (by not including kde-edu) and it
> > is we who have to contact them? Shouldn't they be doing their work and
> > including relevant apps?
>
> With all due respect, Albert, this is very unproductive response, maybe
> even counter-productive.

Dude! No need say you are sorry to not share my opinion :-D

> What they should or should not is largely irrelevant here.  For some reason
> (political? technical? whim?) they haven't included kde-edu. It is now in
> our interest, and of course the students', to make them realize that this
> is a mistake.
>
> This is a lot like selling to large accounts. The first step should be to
> map up the other party: Who is with us? Who is against us? Why? Who
> influences whom, and in what ways? Who is the real decision maker(s)?  When
> we know that, we can continue the process and try to make them add kde-edu
> apps, and maybe the whole module.

Well, i'm a "technical person", i usually am not good trying to "sell" things 
to people when politics is part of the equation. Probably you are right and 
we should work with them and i should be better with the mouth closed.

Albert

>
> 	-Inge
>
> > Albert