[kde-edu]: Importing KWordQuiz

Scott Wheeler wheeler at kde.org
Wed May 5 01:36:23 CEST 2004


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On Tuesday 04 May 2004 22:55, Peter Hedlund wrote:

> I'll remove some of the buttons...

Specifically the sorting thing could go -- that's a standard feature of 
KListView and you could probably make the column renaming a context menu item 
for the listview header (i.e. where the column names are).

Cut, copy, paste and print could probably also go (and just stay in the 
menus).  Also changing the font shouldn't be an often used item and should 
go.

That gets me down to this:

http://ktown.kde.org/~wheeler/images/kwordquiz-2.png

Though I still like it more with the main bar hidden.  I realized that part of 
what's confusing to me is the number of non-standard icons.  Most of the 
toolbar items are unique to KWordQuiz as opposed to the majority in other 
apps which are "standard" icons.  This probably isn't as noticeable to you 
since you're used to them by now.  :-)

That's why I turned on the text descriptions in the "mode" toolbar.

> > Also I think defaults that are better than "Column 1" and "Column 2" 
> > should be found.  I used "front" and "back" in FlashKard since I was 
> > trying to emphasize the visual metaphor.  "Question" and "Answer" could 
> > also work...
> 
> This is one thing I've always wanted to get away from. For me there is 
> really no front/question or back/answer. I want it to work equally well 
> in either direction. One of the things I wanted to improve from FlashKard 
> was to have the ability to name the columns. The worst is vocabulary
> trainers that enforce one particular language as the "base" language.

Well, I don't think "front" and "back" imply that one is a "base" -- they're 
just more descriptive terms for a set of two items than "Column 1" and 
"Column 2".  I also think that being able to change the name is good; I just 
disagree with the default names.

If you asked a user -- even without seeing the program "What should go in 
Column 1 for the quiz?" vs. "What should be on the front of the cards in the 
quiz?" the second one will almost always make more sense intuitively.  It 
might be less accurate or biased towards something that really isn't a 
limitation of the program, but it makes it easier to understand.

I'm sure there are other terms that would work well too, they're just not 
coming to mind at the moment.  :-)

> You really need three bars then, one for overall progress, one for 
> correct, and one for errors. That would IMHO waste screen space. I 
> prefer the current numerical representation (which can be set to show 
> percentages).

Not really.  A progress bar is for -- well, showing progress -- the relative 
amount completed, not the status of your answers.  Sure, you can get this 
information from other places, but it's not as strong of a visual indicator.

> I'll change the default. I agree it may be confusing at first but it's 
> based on user requests (you are the first to argue against) and allows 
> for quickly moving through the quiz.

I agree that the behavior is desirable; just not the widget.  :-)

When I click on a radio button I expect to see it get selected.  It surprised 
me when it changed.  I think push buttons would work better in the 
"immediate" mode.

Another thing that I just noticed -- pressing enter should go to the next item 
to be entered, not the item below.  So in the left column it should go to the 
same item on the right and in the right it should go to the left column 
below.

- -Scott
- -- 
There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer 
shelf life.
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