[kde-doc-english] Wrong ISO dates in docbook files

Yuri Chornoivan yurchor at ukr.net
Tue Feb 3 18:37:54 UTC 2015


написане Tue, 03 Feb 2015 20:33:56 +0200, Albert Astals Cid  
<aacid at kde.org>:

> El Dimarts, 3 de febrer de 2015, a les 12:17:44, Yuri Chornoivan va  
> escriure:
>> написане Mon, 02 Feb 2015 23:45:47 +0200, Albert Astals Cid
>>
>> <aacid at kde.org>:
>> > El Diumenge, 1 de febrer de 2015, a les 02:36:06, Eloy Cuadra va
>> >
>> > escriure:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I don't know if this is really important but in the docbook's author
>> >> guide
>> >> (http://l10n.kde.org/docs/markup/index.html) we can read in the page
>> >> about
>> >> the Prologue section (http://l10n.kde.org/docs/markup/prologue.html)
>> >> that
>> >>
>> >> the <date> field must contain only ISO dates in the form  
>> "yyyy-mm-dd":
>> >>   <date>
>> >>
>> >>     The date is very important. It is used not only by scripts for
>> >>
>> >> automatic
>> >> processing of documentation, but is also central to revision control  
>> and
>> >> co-ordination of translations. You must change the date if you have
>> >> changed
>> >> the original document, and you must not change the date if you are a
>> >> translator. The format of the date is very important. It must be in  
>> the
>> >> ISO, with “literal” delimiters, in the form “yyyy-mm-dd”. Please be
>> >> extremely careful about this, and triple check it before you send in  
>> the
>> >> document.
>> >>
>> >> Well, the KDE's original docbook files are plenty of dates that don't
>> >> follow
>> >> this rule (and also the corresponding translated PO files).
>> >>
>> >> Is it advisable to fix this issue now? This issue concerns a lot of
>> >> english
>> >> documentation in both stable and trunk branches (for kde4 and kf5).
>> >
>> > That's a good question. Had a look at the docbook documentation on
>> > http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/date.html and it says there's no
>> > expected
>> > format for the date.
>> >
>> > So i guess this may have been a self-imposed version so that people  
>> knew
>> > what
>> > to translate from.
>> >
>> > I looked in svn but the commit that introduced that sentence doesn't  
>> say
>> > anything about it and Nicolas doesn't seem to be around anymore to
>> > answer the
>> > question.
>> >
>> > So i guess we should decide ourselves, do we want to enforce that or  
>> not?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> >   Albert
>> >
>> > P.S: CC'ed the kde-doc-enlgish ml
>> >
>> >> Cheers
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> That's not the first time when this question arises. It was a proposal  
>> by
>> Burkhard to have a consistent date/time format.
>
> You sure? That text is back from 2005 or something.
>
> Cheers,
>   Albert

Yes. I'm sure that Burkhard has already proposed to fix dates. And yes, it  
does not used in our workflow so nothing important in KDE depends on ISO  
dates in docs. ;)

Best regards,
Yuri

>
>>
>> There were no objections to this. I think anyone with git access can fix
>> the dates if found this appropriate without a confirmation.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Yuri


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