[kde-doc-english] Visual Dictionary

T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingsworth at gmail.com
Fri Apr 27 18:39:28 UTC 2012


On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Burkhard Lück <lueck at hube-lueck.de> wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 26. April 2012, 20:07:14 schrieb Yuri Chornoivan:
>> написане Thu, 26 Apr 2012 05:26:08 +0300, T.C. Hollingsworth
>>
>> <tchollingsworth at gmail.com>:
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > I just committed my first stab at a visual dictionary to
>> > branches/work/doc.  The non-docs folks (or those too lazy to meinproc
>> > it ;-) can check it out here:
>> > http://tchol.org/kde/fundamentals/ui.html
>> >
>> > I just did one part so far:  the basic elements of a window.  I'll
>> > also do all the little things like checkboxes and buttons and the
>> > like, but I wanted to get some feedback first so I won't have to
>> > change around dozens of UI elements.  ;-)
>> >
>> > You'll notice there's a full screenshot at the top, and you can click
>> > on the different parts of the window to jump to the name and
>> > description of it.
>
> I really like these links from the main window to the element screenshots in
> the table.

Thanks!  On that note, does anyone have a suggestion of good screens
to use for the little widgets.  It'd be nice to get them all in as few
screenshots as possible.  (Alternatively, I could quickly write a
little app that contained all of them, but it'd be nice to use
something real if possible.)

>> > Ideally we'll have some fancy visual indicators
>> > like the Plasma visual dictionary, but those can wait.
>
> Do you have a link to the Plasma visual dictionary?

http://userbase.kde.org/User:Claus_chr/Visual_Dictionary

It's more than just plasma now.  (I'm pretty sure that's all that was
there last time I looked.)

> I had a similar idea to use some kind of highlighting (red border around parts
> of main window like ksnapshot using Section of Window mode), see attachment.

Yup, that's pretty much the same thing.  For some reason in my mind I
remembered it having labels for everything instead of numbers.  (I
haven't looked at it since we started on this a couple months ago.)
Numbers aren't really necessary because imagemaps work better, and
labels are probably too visually noisy.  The borders are probably the
way to go.

>> > (You might
>> > also notice that it looks weird uncentered.  We have a CSS rule to
>> > center normal <mediaobject>s but not <mediaobjectco> which makes
>> > imagemaps.  I'll fix this soon.)
>> >
>> > I'm not sure I like how the description ends up smashed like it is due
>> > to the wider screenshots.  My original thought was to have the name
>> > and description in one column, but the only way I could think to do it
>> > and look decent is using <variablelist> markup and that would be
>> > rather verbose.
>> >
> Some ideas for visual improvement:
>
> * Reduce height for visualdict-window.png (see attachment) and visualdict-
> window-centralwidget.png
>
> * Toolbar Text unter Icons or cut off the right prt of the toolbar screenshot
> (reduce width of visualdict-window-toolbar.png -> more space for text in the
> second column)
>
> * Add Scrollbars here

Agreed on all three counts.

> * Term "Panel" or "Sidebar"?
> Dolphin uses the term "Panel" in GUI+Documentation, wheras Konqueror and Kate
> use "Sidebar", what to use here?

Ideally we'd get all the apps in the project to use the same term.  ;-)

Otherwise, I guess we should just list both.

> Thanks a lot for your work.

-T.C.


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