Disallow or discourage use of "AI" tools (Christoph Cullmann)

[Justin Zobel]

On 15/05/2025 23:57, Konstantin Kharlamov wrote:
> On Thu, 2025-05-15 at 16:09 +0200, Felix Ernst wrote:
>>
>>
>> Late reply, but I also wanted to mention that I am 100% in support of
>> any anit-AI messaging and policies we might choose.
>>
>> The wording as linked by Akseli in their first post seems like a good
>> starting point in that regard:
>>
>>> Other projects have already done something similar, see for
>>> example:
>>> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/loupe-no-longer-allows-generative-ai-contributions/27327
>> The only use of AI I support needs all its training data to be
>> licenced in a way that allows use for the AI training e.g. CC0 or
>> WTFPL licence. This way I don't see ethical issues because the
>> copyright holders have then given some sort of consenst for this use.
>>
>> I wouldn't even mind if we went one step further and actively
>> promoted e.g. Plasma as "free of AI". This does not need to be fully
>> true, but this would be more of an activism and marketing angle I
>> would like to see. There is a good chance though that this would not
>> be a good use of our time but it would align with KDE Eco IMO. (I
>> know that there are also great uses of AI, but public messaging needs
>> to be clear and easy to understand, and there is still enough pro-AI
>> marketing out there to the point that taking the opposite stance
>> seems sensible to me.)
> I'm not sure taking fully opposite stance would be beneficial for
> anyone. Pro-AI has a point. And most anti-AI people from my experience
> are actually anti-unlicensed-AI, i.e. not anti-AI in general. That's
> because full "anti-AI" has no benefits, so there's not much people, who
> actually are fully anti-AI. Hence, making public stance "we're all
> anti-AI" would be harmful, not only in marketing sense, but also
> technologically, because it would require all KDE apps maintainers to
> remove support for AI tools (think of Kate completion plugins for
> example), which sounds like a nice way to introduce conflict in the
> community.
Ethical issues aside, AI has other impacts as well, most notably 
environmental via the huge amounts of energy required to first train AI 
and then even using it.
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