Wayland/Xlibre

[Neal Gompa]

On Tue, Dec 2, 2025 at 6:02 PM Tobias Leupold <tl at stonemx.de> wrote:
>
> Am Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2025, 23:40:50 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit schrieb
> Paul Brown:
> > > I'd love continuing seeing freedom of choice, may it be the init system or
> > > the display server. That's the whole point of what we do, no?
> >
> > Did  you have the same "freedom of choice" concerns when KDE/Plasma was X11
> > only?
> >
> > Paul
>
> No, I didn't. Either because this was so long ago that we didn't have any
> choice back then (only X and nothing else available at the time), or I didn't
> notice it.
>

Plasma Wayland has existed in some form for about ten years. It's been
in a usable state for the last five. So I think this is mostly because
you didn't notice it.

> However, my question was more about: What is our position about Xlibre, facing
> the fact that Wayland seems to be still neither universally accepted, nor the
> undisputed standard or state-of-the-art despite being around for way more than
> a decade now.
>

I think this is rather presumptuous. The desktop developers across the
board are either done porting or are in progress porting to Wayland at
this point, which indicates that it is the expected standard now.

* GNOME: completed, X11 dropped for v50
* KDE Plasma: in completion phase, X11 dropped for v6.8
* Budgie: completed, X11 dropped for v10.10
* LXQt: in completion phase, multiple Wayland compositors supported
* Cinnamon: in progress, expected to be promoted more widely next year
* Xfce: in progress: desktop stack ported, window manager porting work
not started
* MATE: in progress: desktop stack ported, Wayfire-based session in development

This is a pretty decent consensus among actively developed desktops
that Wayland is the future.

>From the perspective of technological opportunities, Wayland is
considered state of the art. However, every desktop has their opinions
of how things should work, and this results in much more opinionated
desktop experiences with differing features and capabilities.



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