Any interest in a batch file renamer in KIO?

[Konstantin Kharlamov]

On Wed, 2021-05-19 at 15:29 +0300, Konstantin Kharlamov wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-05-19 at 13:30 +0200, Harald Sitter wrote:
> > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:38 PM Nomen Luni <nomen.luni at gmx.us> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I actually looked at KRename some time back and it wasn't quite what I
> > > wanted. It does actually appear as a service menu option when installed,
> > > so it has that base covered, however for my needs it's felt a little
> > > unwieldy. My application, whilst no doubt a little less capable feels
> > > smaller and more streamlined to operate and dare I say more at a level
> > > consistent with the Dolphin ethos in terms of the simplicity of the GUI
> > > - I realise this is subjective. If anyone has used the Thunar 'bulk
> > > rename' plugin, mine is heavily influenced by the interface of that (but
> > > implemented in Qt which was one of the prime reasons for its
> > > creation)... so it wasn't a case of 'new code is more fun,' so much as
> > > 'this is exactly what I want.'
> > > 
> > > Since KRename already operates as a Dolphin plugin it shouldn't be too
> > > much work to integrate it directly into Dolphin, or perhaps even just
> > > ship it as a default plugin, however that isn't something I'm interested
> > > in working on as I don't use it... benevolent self interest and all that.
> > > 
> > > Dolphin could really benefit from a batch rename function in my opinion,
> > > what form that functionality should take, pre-existing or new, is a
> > > worthwhile conversation. In any case, Harald's point regarding
> > > discoverability is a valid one, as I'm sure a large proportion of users
> > > never take the time to investigate the service menu plugins.
> > 
> > My point was more that all the "backendy" bits already exist in
> > krename, the discoverability it lends is just bonus. And while I
> > completely agree that the current UI is very... eh, advanced... you
> > could simply stick another simplistic UI on top, or rework the default
> > appearance of krename so it is simpler by default and powerful when
> > needed. The way I see it krename could definitely become more
> > appealing to potential users by being simpler, and at the same time if
> > you invest UI engineering into krename you don't have to worry about
> > any of the logic behind renaming in of itself since that already
> > exists and is QA'd.
> > 
> > HS
> 
> My point on discoverability was that a person more likely to question "Hmm,
> what plugins do I have in Dolphin" and find out this plugin, rather than "Hmm,
> what can I use to rename a bunch of files", in which case they need to use
> search engine, and after they did it, they'll most likely get a bunch of bash
> solutions. KRename won't be one of them unless they specifically search for
> "KDE file rename tools".
> 
> So in that sense, discoverability of a plugin is higher than that of a stand-
> alone app.

To clarify: this of course implies the plugin would be included by default with
Dolphin. Otherwise indeed, there's no difference in discoverability compared to
KRename