liquidshell in kdereview

Martin Koller kollix at
Mon Nov 6 18:30:08 GMT 2017

On Montag, 6. November 2017 17:12:31 CET Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> Hi Martin,
> Am Freitag, 3. November 2017, 21:30:19 CET schrieb Martin Koller:
> > I'd like to announce an application I've implemented over the last few weeks
> > - liquidshell
> Congrats to the achievement. It surely feels good to run a workspace one has 
> created one themselves :)
> While myself I will choose Plasma over liquidshell due to my needs and 
> expectations of certain features, I can see that liquidshell would satisfy 
> those persons who need or want just a simple hard-coded shell following a 
> well-known UI design & concept, yet stay with the usual tools and apps from 
> the KDE software world, ideally perfectly integrated with the workspace (think 
> filemanager, terminal, text editor, etc). People like obviously yourself :) So 
> those persons might be surely happy about you sharing your work with them.
> My hopes for liquidshell as another project under the KDE community umbrella:
> * improvements for shared middleware, perhaps even introducing some more
>   where it makes sense to share between Plasma, liquidshell & others
>   (pushing for more clear UI-core separation, which in theory is for good)
>   libtm might be one such thing, the weather data provider system also calls
>   for being shared code with Plasma (and e.g. the Marble weather plugin)
> * another testing ground for protocols & standards in development
> * make more obvious that "KDE" is about a community, not a certain software
> * give perhaps remaining trinity desktop developers and other
>   Plasma-no-Qt-jay-fans a new center for their goals and as result also new
>   contributors for the shared middleware, tools and apps (at least for their
>   current QtWidgets UI variant ;) )
> Re: gosh, yet another workspace
> In a perfect world everybody would join work on the one true golden workspace 
> solution, reality is that there is no such one-workspace-which-fits-all. Not 
> to forget the mythical person-month issue.
> And if people rather go and write their own software instead of joining 
> existing projects, it should be the projects asking themselves why they have 
> not been attractive enough in the first place.
> Telling people instead "you should not do X, but Y" is rather the opposite of 
> what Free Software is about. Even when first saying "Your are free, but".
> I applaud you, Martin, for managing to solve your needs yourself and for 
> sharing the results with the rest of the world, instead of keeping them for 
> yourself.
> And as KDE community we can feel honored you trust us to be the best place for 
> further development of your software, instead of going github or elsewhere.

thanks for the appreciation
> Re: liquidshell as name
> When I read liquidshell I first thought about something very dynamic, highly 
> animated. So not sure "liquid" is the best term to use in the name. But then 
> we all know naming is hard, good luck with it :)

This was a tough one. really not easy to select a sensible name.
I was considering "solidshell" but Solid has already a meaning in the KDE world.

Best regards/Schöne Grüße

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