liquidshell in kdereview

[Albert Astals Cid]

El diumenge, 3 de desembre de 2017, a les 13:51:49 CET, Martin Flöser va 
escriure:
> Am 2017-12-03 12:28, schrieb Albert Astals Cid:
> > El dissabte, 2 de desembre de 2017, a les 13:26:18 CET, Martin Flöser
> > va
> > 
> > escriure:
> >> Am 2017-12-02 10:17, schrieb Albert Astals Cid:
> >> > El dijous, 30 de novembre de 2017, a les 19:57:45 CET, Martin Flöser va
> >> > 
> >> > escriure:
> >> >> Am 2017-11-29 21:23, schrieb Martin Koller:
> >> >> > On Freitag, 3. November 2017 21:30:19 CET Martin Koller wrote:
> >> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> I'd like to announce an application I've implemented over the last
> >> >> >> few
> >> >> >> weeks - liquidshell
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > since more than 3 weeks have passed, I hopefully have addressed all
> >> >> > issues and I got no further comments,
> >> >> > are there any blocking points you see or can I proceed requesting
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > move to extragear ?
> >> >> 
> >> >> Yes I still see several blocking items. E.g.
> >> >> "liquidshell is an alternative to plasmashell"
> >> >> 
> >> >> I think that should be removed. I do not want any competing or
> >> >> alternative to plasmashell provided by KDE. This would be very bad for
> >> >> our community. Please formulate the readme without mentioning Plasma.
> >> >> I'm sure you are able to find unique selling points without going into
> >> >> any part of competition with Plasma or in any part which could be
> >> >> misunderstood.
> >> >> 
> >> >> What I do not want is Phoronix: "KDE starts new desktop shell because
> >> >> Plasma sucks". Please formulate everything so that it cannot be
> >> >> misunderstood.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Also remove all the parts about the main motivation without "hog cpu
> >> >> or
> >> >> ram". We already discussed that this was a problem with your local and
> >> >> personal setup. Don't piss on Plasma because your setup has problems.
> >> >> You have all the rights to scratch your own itch, but don't piss on
> >> >> us.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Personally I'm against liquidshell getting added to extragear. I think
> >> >> this would be harming the KDE community to have a shared desktop
> >> >> shell.
> >> >> We have already too much fragmentation on the desktop area and I don't
> >> >> think KDE should support this by creating yet another desktop shell.
> >> >> We
> >> >> should think here in the big picture.
> >> > 
> >> > So you'd rather prefer he did this in github?
> >> 
> >> I did't write that and I'm surprised you come to that conclusion.
> > 
> > You said we should not take this in. Martin wants this to be published
> > it
> > somehwere, so it has to end up somewhere in github or similar. That was
> > my
> > conclusion, i really don't see how is it surprising?
> 
> Yes, I think we should not take it into extra-gear. That does not mean
> that I have anything against it being hosted on KDE's git
> infrastructure. Whether it gets released and promoted by the KDE
> community is rather orthogonal to where it is hosted.
> 
> So I don't understand your reasoning.

There's no such thing as extregear anymore (well there is in the l10n module 
sense but we should be trying to get rid of it)

Conceptually, there is:
 * stuff hosted in KDE and released as a "group", i.e.
   - Plasma
   - KDE Frameworks
   - "KDE Applications" [1] 
 * stuff hosted in KDE and released individually [2]
   - Krita
   - rsibreak
   - kaffeine
   - konversation
   - etc

So I don't understand your reasoning.

Are you suggesting that we can host something in kde repos and it gets 
released by a kde person but still not be a kde project?

Cheers,
  Albert

[1] yes we all agree it's a bad name but noone has come up with a better one
[2] formerly known as extragear